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Old 11-23-2021, 01:15 PM   #51
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I just don't get it: FWD only, DCT only, CUV. I want none of that; had it a manual and AWD I'd maybe consider it, but lower it (since the options in the market are bleak to non-existent ATM). I just don't see it selling well.
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Old 11-23-2021, 01:15 PM   #52
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a fwd, automatic sporty cuv.

yaokay. no thanks.
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Old 11-23-2021, 03:37 PM   #53
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I just don't get it: FWD only, DCT only, CUV. I want none of that; had it a manual and AWD I'd maybe consider it, but lower it (since the options in the market are bleak to non-existent ATM). I just don't see it selling well.
Basically this. I actually really like the looks as is, but no AWD really pushes it into "Naw" territory.
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Old 11-23-2021, 04:58 PM   #54
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It will probably sell just fine, It's a GTI for the guy who has a couple of kids.

Just watched a video looks fine to me.
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Old 11-23-2021, 05:29 PM   #55
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Hyundai design team - "let's just double everything!"
two headlights, two taillights, two fenders, two grills

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Old 11-23-2021, 07:53 PM   #56
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If it came with either a MT option or AWD, it will be compelling. I like the looks as a quirky CUV/hatch.
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Old 11-23-2021, 08:11 PM   #57
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I also like how it looks, and the red looks better than that Hyundai N blue IMO. This car isn't targeted at anyone here but it will still probably sell well to people who aren't really big car enthusiasts but want something that seems sportier and cooler than their standard CUV/crossover.
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Old 11-23-2021, 08:55 PM   #58
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It will probably sell just fine, It's a GTI for the guy who has a couple of kids.

Just watched a video looks fine to me.
As a guy with a couple kids, I don't like FF, but I'd take a GTI over this thing any day - 6mt, lower ride height; and it's not like the Kona N has more "seats-up" cargo capacity than a GTI does either (it technically has less).
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:24 PM   #59
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I just don't get it: FWD only, DCT only, CUV. I want none of that; had it a manual and AWD I'd maybe consider it, but lower it (since the options in the market are bleak to non-existent ATM). I just don't see it selling well.
Yeah, I actually like the look inside and out, but WTF is Hyundai thinking - who asked for this car?
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:25 PM   #60
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It will probably sell just fine, It's a GTI for the guy who has a couple of kids.

Just watched a video looks fine to me.
Have you seen the trunk on a Kona? Nobody with two kids will want this. It makes a GTI trunk look cavernous.

Kona is popular with single women. Never seen one with a kid in it.
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:26 PM   #61
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I also like how it looks, and the red looks better than that Hyundai N blue IMO. This car isn't targeted at anyone here but it will still probably sell well to people who aren't really big car enthusiasts but want something that seems sportier and cooler than their standard CUV/crossover.
Those will buy the Kona N Line, looks very similar and much cheaper.
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Old 11-24-2021, 12:19 PM   #62
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Have you seen the trunk on a Kona? Nobody with two kids will want this. It makes a GTI trunk look cavernous.

Kona is popular with single women. Never seen one with a kid in it.
Yeah it's smaller than I thought, essentially a hatchback. I still think it will sell just fine. It's not geared towards this crowd. Estimates of low $30's should help with it's appeal.

Hyundai I think is doing a N version of the Tuscon and maybe Sante Fe so AWD should be on those.
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Old 11-30-2021, 07:43 PM   #63
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Priced to fail.

"2022 Hyundai Kona N Starts At $35,425 | Carscoops" https://www.carscoops.com/2021/11/20...-at-35425/amp/

Should've started at $29,995 or something appealingly silly. I was expecting maybe $31k.
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Old 11-30-2021, 09:13 PM   #64
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Priced to fail.

"2022 Hyundai Kona N Starts At $35,425 | Carscoops" https://www.carscoops.com/2021/11/20...-at-35425/amp/

Should've started at $29,995 or something appealingly silly. I was expecting maybe $31k.
Iíd happily pay that if it was a 6mT i30N. The problem is itís a stupid mini FWD SUV, not the price. Would you buy it if it was $31k?
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Betting that the Elantra N will be similarly priced, I would opt for that for 4 door comfort and 6MT.
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Elantra N price had leaked. Manual $32,925 and DCT $34,425. Thatís including destination btw.
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Old 12-01-2021, 04:49 AM   #67
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Iíd happily pay that if it was a 6mT i30N. The problem is itís a stupid mini FWD SUV, not the price. Would you buy it if it was $31k?
For me, as it is currently spec'd and barring NOTHING else being available (no GR Corolla, STI, BRZ tS, or surprise entry), the Kona N is worth $30k.

Add a 6MT, I'd actually pay more: $31k

Add AWD and 6MT: I'd consider their current asking price of almost $36k. Then I'd find a way to lower it with high quality suspension bits.

Add AWD, keep DCT: $35k.

I'm not their demographic mostly because I don't want the ground clearance (though I really should because New England roads are garbage) and I've been exposed to sportier cars. This is a great car for a young couple with a kid or two who need a second car, and who've never owned a turbo AWD or RWD sports car. FWD just doesn't thrill me since I'm not a straight line speed kinda guy. I know it's all relative and FWD performance is improving, but the inefficiencies are still prevalent.
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Old 12-01-2021, 08:21 AM   #68
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The only thing I can think is maybe the AWD wasnít ready and theyíll add it later. Anyone familiar with the US market knows nobody buys FWD SUVs unless itís the cheapest model.

This clearly is meant for enthusiasts, and none of them want a FWD mini SUV.
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Wow. I was tenuously interested in the Kona N--but not at that price. I assumed they were keeping it fwd to keep costs down. At 31ishK it would have been a reasonable trade off for more practicality at a similar price to the Veloster. At 35K it's not even a consideration.
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Wow. I was tenuously interested in the Kona N--but not at that price. I assumed they were keeping it fwd to keep costs down. At 31ishK it would have been a reasonable trade off for more practicality at a similar price to the Veloster. At 35K it's not even a consideration.
I think it's the weight. The Kona N is 150 lbs heavier than the Veloster N. If you added AWD it would be 3500 lbs.
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"2022 Hyundai Kona N Priced Just $400 More Than Veloster N Hot Hatch" https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...cing-msrp/amp/

Pricing makes more sense since I didn't think about it basically being a Limited trim, or at least just shy of Limited.

One trim to rule them all!
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In a regular market, you could get huge deals on the Veloster N. A local dealer offered me $5k below MSRP. Hyundai dealers have typically discounted and they don't hold value on the secondary market. I don't think people should be crying about the $35K MSRP.
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Old 12-08-2021, 12:48 PM   #73
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In a regular market, you could get huge deals on the Veloster N. A local dealer offered me $5k below MSRP. Hyundai dealers have typically discounted and they don't hold value on the secondary market. I don't think people should be crying about the $35K MSRP.
Here in Cali, and in NorCal specifically, Veloster N were already hard to find before the pandemic.
People snatched up theses cars fast and dealerships didn't have to offer incentives to move then off their lots.
Things are worse now and most low mileage 2020 are above $30K.
There's a dealership in Stockton that is asking $45K for a new 2022 .
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I've monitored Veloster N inventory since it launched, and there were NEVER more than single digit quantities here in Norcal one of the largest markets in the world... They purposely under produced them IMO.
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I've monitored Veloster N inventory since it launched, and there were NEVER more than single digit quantities here in Norcal one of the largest markets in the world... They purposely under produced them IMO.
I agree; before the pandemic, it would have been easier to find and purchase a CTR than a Veloster N.
I think Kona N will be just as hard to come by.

I just realized one interesting thing about the Kona though: Kona N is the only FWD Kona with a multilink rear setup.
The regular FWD Kona uses a torsion beam while the AWD Kona uses a multilink setup.
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