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Old 05-19-2021, 12:50 PM   #1
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Toyota To Reportedly Launch Corolla Cross SUV In The U.S. Market
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Immediately following the unveiling of the Toyota Corolla Cross in Thailand in mid-2020, the Japanese automaker said it had yet to make a decision on whether or not it would be sold in the United States. Fast forward to May 2021 and it looks like the vehicle has been given the green light to be sold stateside.

In fact, a heavily camouflaged prototype of the Toyota Corolla Cross was recently spotted on the streets of the U.S. by Auto News and while that alone isnít enough to confirm that it will launch locally, the fact that the prototype had been equipped with amber turn signals is a pretty clear indication that it is being developed for the local market.

The Toyota Corolla Cross wonít undergo any significant alterations for the U.S. As such, it can be expected to feature the same Toyota New Global Architecture C (TGNA-C) as the model sold in overseas markets. It is 4,460 mm (175.5 inches) long, 1,825 mm (71.9 inches) wide, and 1,620 mm (63.8 inches) tall. It also has a 2,640 mm (103.9 inch) wheelbase.

The main unknown regarding the U.S.-spec Corolla Cross relates to its engines. In Thailand, entry-level models come standard with a 1.8-liter petrol engine producing 140 hp and 129 lb-ft (175 Nm), driving the front wheels through a CVT. The Thai market is also offered the Corolla Cross in hybrid guise where it combines a 1.8-liter producing 98 hp and 105 lb-ft (142 Nm) with an electric motor offering up an additional 72 hp and 120 lb-ft (163 Nm) of torque. Itís too early at this stage to know if the U.S. will be offered these same powertrains.
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Old 05-19-2021, 01:01 PM   #2
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slotting in between the chr and the rav-4/venza?

a lot of choice in the small cuv market from Toyota.

How about dropping that gr drivetrain into the chr instead of adding more body configurations...
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Old 05-19-2021, 01:04 PM   #3
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[ ] Crosstrek
[X] Crossrekt

Unfortunately no amount of competition will get Subaru to fix the problem with the Crosstrek: CVT.
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Old 05-19-2021, 01:10 PM   #4
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The Corolla Cross is FWD and is related to the C-HR; same wheelbase, larger body. Kinda redundant, except for styling.
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FWD or AWD for all three trims. LED lighting for all trims too. Already looking more appealing than the base Crosstrek.

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Old 06-02-2021, 06:15 PM   #6
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It definitely looks functionally better than the C-HR. AWD optional and more power seems like a better buy too.
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Old 06-03-2021, 06:44 AM   #7
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Power rear hatch! Very interesting...
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Old 06-03-2021, 09:18 AM   #8
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Needs more power.
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Old 06-03-2021, 11:54 AM   #9
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This will eat into Crosstrek sales for sure as people love the RAV4 so a smaller version should sell pretty well.
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Old 06-03-2021, 12:12 PM   #10
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meh..
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hard pass for me; not enough cargo capacity, not enough power, CVT only; just not enough to persuade me from either a hatchback or large CUV (not that I'm n the market for either). It does land squarely in the crosstrek market, which is where they wanted to land, and I'm sure it will be better than the crosstrek is across the board (fuel economy, reliability, tuning, interior materials, NVH, etc.)
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Toyota just registered the Crown name in the US, so I wonder if they will bring the Crown Kluger V here. I know it's basically the same as the Highlander, but at least it comes without the third row.
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Old 06-03-2021, 02:41 PM   #13
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Should sell well. Another CUV that looks exactly like all the other CUVs in this segment.

Also, clearly how the Corolla is going to transition from car to CUV.
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Should sell well. Another CUV that looks exactly like all the other CUVs in this segment.

Also, clearly how the Corolla is going to transition from car to CUV.
I don't pay much attention to Toyota and had totally forgot about the Venza and CH-R. Wow. Here they all are lined up with their wheelbase. Sooooo much overlap in the lineup.
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If you think toyota's overlap is bad, go look at mitsubishi's webstie. I went to get a free AYC pump replacement (thanks, Minnesota winters...) and perused their showroom while waiting. It was like 5 mildly different copies of the exact same size/height/specs car and then their ugly ass tiny electric thing.
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The article quoted in the OP is outdated as it pertains to the US market. It was revealed a few days ago that the US models would make 169 HP and 150 lb/ft. Obviously that's still not enough to excite any enthusiasts, but it's a significant bump over the 140 HP and 129 lb/ft originally mentioned.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...ross-revealed/
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If you think toyota's overlap is bad, go look at mitsubishi's webstie. I went to get a free AYC pump replacement (thanks, Minnesota winters...) and perused their showroom while waiting. It was like 5 mildly different copies of the exact same size/height/specs car and then their ugly ass tiny electric thing.
Wow. That's truly sad.

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Then just the Mirage and Mirage G4. Mirage should be illegal to sell. It's such an awful car for America. I've personally known someone who was gifted a Mirage and they couldn't expound enough on how big of a death trap it is.
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Basically just get a Crosstrek Sport or Limited.
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Seen a few of these on the road already.
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So what's the difference between this and the RAV4 that Toyota said "we need to fill a spot in the market?"
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So what's the difference between this and the RAV4 that Toyota said "we need to fill a spot in the market?"
Slight dimensional differences, but mainly, yes, a lower entry point in the market.
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So what's the difference between this and the RAV4 that Toyota said "we need to fill a spot in the market?"
Same thing between Crosstrek vs Forester or HR-V vs CR-V. All their original compact CUV's have grown opening up opportunity for real compact CUV again. This is most likely a better vehicle than the CH-R.
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Same thing between Crosstrek vs Forester or HR-V vs CR-V. All their original compact CUV's have grown opening up opportunity for real compact CUV again. This is most likely a better vehicle than the CH-R.
But this and the RAV4 are similar in both powertrain options and dimensions. The Crosstrek is just an Impreza (with a couple changes), but the Forester is quite different (even in powertrains).

Pricepoint, I can get behind. It's $4k cheaper to start. So, using the Subaru analogy, it's like they started with the 2.5L Crosstrek, and THEN made the Impreza, with cheaper stuff. I.e. RAV4 2.5L (two transmissions AT/CVT) -> Corolla Cross 2.0L (one transmission CVT)

I think that just answered it.
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But this and the RAV4 are similar in both powertrain options and dimensions. The Crosstrek is just an Impreza (with a couple changes), but the Forester is quite different (even in powertrains).

Pricepoint, I can get behind. It's $4k cheaper to start. So, using the Subaru analogy, it's like they started with the 2.5L Crosstrek, and THEN made the Impreza, with cheaper stuff. I.e. RAV4 2.5L (two transmissions AT/CVT) -> Corolla Cross 2.0L (one transmission CVT)

I think that just answered it.
Most likely the next gen RAV-4 will grow as the CR-V appears to be growing.

Using the same Subaru analogy, they started with the Corolla 2.0L (Impreza 2.0L) and made a Corolla Cross 2.0L (Crosstrek 2.0L). If you want a 2.5L, you step up to the pricier RAV-4 (Forester). The only difference is that Toyota is not offering the 2.5L in the Corolla Cross as is optional engine as in the Crosstrek. But they may not need to as the Toyota 2.0L already makes 169 hp which is a good jump over 152 hp. And they will be offering a more powerful Hybrid.
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Y'all have been reading all the reports wrong. The GR Corolla is actually going to be the GR Corolla Cross for the American market, complete with GR stitching on the seats, a GR sticker on the hatch, a GR button on the center console that sets the CVT into sport mode, and a badge on the steering wheel, all for an extra $3,000. Canada will get a GR Corolla with heated everything, special purple color, anti-lag, and launch control.

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