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![]() And no one will buy it
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![]() It would really only compete with the V60/90 and could undercut them a little. I really wish it was easier for manufacturers to import and sell a handful of cars they already make rather than produce to the lowest common denominator.
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle:Dura ngo 95 horrorshow |
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CUVs, cheap sedan, halo sedan, halo hatchbacks, EV the rest. A halo shooting brake could work so long as there is zero expectation it will sell any better than the terrible sales of the sedan. Sedans are just...terrible. |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Join Date: May 2006
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Vehicle:93 MR2 T Blue metallic |
![]() That's not a shooting brake, that is a wagon. A shooting brake is a 3 door wagon. Like this.
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![]() Sedans are coupes.
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Vehicle:2017 Impreza Sport Lithium Red - OLDKID |
![]() "Coupe sedan" really does roll off the tongue though.
"Shooting brake" always feels like an interesting concept, and good execution, with little-to-no takers. "Wagon" sounds un-American. |
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![]() I got boners for the Passat wagon.
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![]() Again, un-American, but I'll allow it.
I got a buddy who's obsessed with VW wagons. I think he's on his third one within the past 18 months. |
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![]() SEL Premium is already close to $50k add in R and wagon and what close to $60k. DOA.
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it's amazing that they sell it here, really. Blows up all of the other trends in the auto industry of offering fewer and fewer products. |
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Member#: 30209
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Location: Washington State
Vehicle:2019 Subaru WRX STi Crystal White Pearl |
![]() YES PLEASE! I'd kill for an Arteon R Shooting Brake.
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![]() This ^^^ is the biggest problem. If you want to bring a wagon, and you want meet any sort of volume objectives or market penetration you can't price yourself out right from the get go. The other problem of course is VW reliability. Two of the biggest reasons why Toyota and Honda are always topping the charts with their offerings. As I recall Toyota has been pondering bringing over the Corolla wagon, yes apples and oranges but most buyers will not opt for a wagon this expensive. That only leaves the upper echelon luxury buyers who buy the RS6 Avant or the AMG wagons. This is also precisely the reason why BMW will not bring the M3 wagon to the U.S. It's way too much money to spend to sell just a few hundred units, if even that.
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![]() Arteon sedan doesn't meet any sort of volume objectives and has zero market penetration and is a one trick pony big car with standard FWD for $40k.
VW killed the Passat and Golf but kept their least popular model. They have zero to lose by offering a shooting brake. |
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Member#: 30209
Join Date: Nov 2002
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The luxury 5-door "coupe" has been huge lately (BMW Gran Coupe, Merc letter salad dujour, Audi Sportback, Kia Stinger, etc.) because they offer a lot more practical space in a sporty package. Sporty wagons are making a comeback with the Taycan and Panamera Sport Crosses, the RS6, Mercedes wagons (they still make standard E-Class wagons and the C and E AMG wagons), etc. I think VW has a market for the Arteon R as a cheaper alternative to the big boys. I know it would solidly be on my radar since I am dying for a mid-to-full size sporty AWD wagon. |
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Member#: 30209
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Location: Washington State
Vehicle:2019 Subaru WRX STi Crystal White Pearl |
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