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Old 05-11-2006, 07:28 PM   #1
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Im looking at a rimmer S/C for my 2.2l impreza... I can get it cheap. Im thikning I will need a fuel controller...

Can someone point me in a good direction to search?
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I've got a Rimmer SC that I picked up recently. It didn't come with a fuel controller, but did come with a good old RRFPR. I will be running 440cc injectors on mine, so won't need it. PM if you are interested in it...
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:52 PM   #3
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Here we go.....



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Old 05-12-2006, 11:45 AM   #4
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Thanks for your concern Tats...

Anyways, Matt... I plan on plopping in a parallel fuel rail setup that I made when I had a legacy turbo... think the 380cc ones from that will be sufficient? Will the standard 2.2l computer compensate for the bigger injectors?

Im not totally on this bandwagon for S/C land yet, but for $500 maybe, a bit more HP would be nice.
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Old 05-12-2006, 12:05 PM   #5
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No, I think those injectors are too big for the ECU to compensate. The ECU definitely won't be able to cope with boost. I would get a piggy-back unit of some sort. I am personally looking at the E-Manage Ultimate as I could control timing and trim/add fuel as I wanted without making the ECU mad. But that is outside the price range you were talking about.
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Old 05-12-2006, 12:16 PM   #6
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Im looking at a rimmer S/C for my 2.2l impreza... I can get it cheap. Im thikning I will need a fuel controller...

Can someone point me in a good direction to search?
I thought people gave up on S/C's...

Do a search for for post by user "edekker".

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Old 05-12-2006, 12:21 PM   #7
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I thought people gave up on S/C's...


Give up on the best type of forced induction? I think not
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Old 05-12-2006, 12:26 PM   #8
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I have run 370 cc injectors in place of 270 cc. Bad milage, but it ran. It really helps to have some engine management for feul economy, not to mention engine longevity. If you boost over 5-6 psi, The odds of some damage starts to climb!
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Old 05-12-2006, 01:18 PM   #9
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Nope..not on SCs. Just on Rimmer.
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indeed considering cobb as a prototype SC for the tribecca
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Old 05-13-2006, 07:25 PM   #11
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I think im not going to do it anymore.. I have been reading way too much.. ill just do some EM and throw an EJ20G in there... or maybe my first plan , an EJ22T...
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Old 05-14-2006, 02:22 AM   #12
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If you like low rpm high torque, rethink! I am getting 1.8 60' times with a SC 2.2.
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i really dont know now... My father is all for it, but rimmers rep really has me worried...
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Old 05-15-2006, 10:28 AM   #14
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:40 AM   #15
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i really dont know now... My father is all for it, but rimmers rep really has me worried...
What the h3ll does Rimmer's reputation have to do with it? The products he produced were generally seen as fairly high quality. The fact that he didn't make a go of it financially long term and some people lost their deposits shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Read Reddevils 45 page thread and re-think this. With a PP or Emanage you should be able to make this thing run fine on your car...
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:48 AM   #16
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The supercharger isnt going to fail, cause the motor to blow up, or anthing like that. Its just a belt driven air pump. What is going to cause the motor to fail is lack of tuning and/or lack of fuel. Same as a turbo setup on an NA motor, only slightly less so due to lack of heat produced by the turbo.
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Old 05-15-2006, 02:17 PM   #17
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Ive never heard of any of Rimmer's produced products failing. I don't recall if any sort of engine management other then a RRFPR came with the kit but generally people back in the knew next to nothing about ECU tuning our NA subarus. There are probably way more people that bought Minnam turbo kits and blew their motors. There just wasn't much available for the old RS. We couldn't go out to the local Walmart and pick up a Greddy Emanage Ultimate for $550 or Perfect Power SMT. You had to fork over $1500 + for a Link or $2000+ for a TEC-II.

Ive never met Rick Rimmer or even personally seen or touched one of his kits but everything I remember reading back in the day pointed to lack of tuning or sufficient equipment for proper tuning.

If you get the Rimmer kit keep in mind that you will need to spend some suplimental money for tuning safely. If Fuel Pump, injectors, wideband O2, and some form of Fuel/Ignition Control don't come with the kit you getting just do some research, find out what you like best, and buy it. You would have to do the same for the much more extensive and expensive EJ20G swap.

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Old 05-15-2006, 02:44 PM   #18
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ok.. the guys where I work say that I should get this, swap the short block and get some head work done. then toss that puppy in.

I will def buy an emanage ultimate.

i was planning on doing that anyways and put in an EJ20G/K... im still a tiny bit on the fence.
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Old 05-15-2006, 04:22 PM   #19
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Shouldn't need a different shortblock for the time being. Do you have any idea what pulley comes with your kit? If I remember that kit was very low boost. Like 5-6psi. You shouldn't have any problem running stock blocked with the emanage. You might and I say might be able to get away with stock injectors at 4 or 5psi. If you are planning to swap shortblocks in the future go ahead and grab a set of older turbo legacy sidefeed injectors or even usdm STI sidefeeds. Definitely install the Ultimate before the supercharger. You should be able to pick up a stock Wideband O2 from a 2000 or newer RS from your local autoparts store for around $100.
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It really depends on which kit it was. The one that got a lot of attention was the Eaton based kit with no intercooler. IIRC, that was 6 psi. The kit I have is Autorotor and has an AWIC and runs 8-9 psi. This kit was mentioned in passing in the old SCC article, but was "under development". I didn't even know it actually was ever produced until I came across it for sale.

In addition to that, there were both sidewinder Eatons (which don't require a hood bump cutout) and the original Eatons that require hood cutting...
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Thats the Laminova AWIC they showed on their site right before they went out of business. Wow didn't realize that was a 9 psi system. That would be sweet on a 9:1 compression car or a nice EJ22t block with 10.5:1 compression pistons running meth

Autorotor. Very nice. Ive seen a few of those Lightenings with Kenne Belle's name on them.

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Old 05-16-2006, 06:17 AM   #22
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Are you talking about buying an old Rimmer kit? I mean kit, not just the head unit (the charger itself).

And Rick hasn't ever been out of business. He's staying pretty busy for the last six years I've been talking to him. Subaru stuff out of business....yes,they need to get something solid going for sure.

I tell you what shipjumper, If it's a kit and the charger isn't bad, for $500.00 someone is going too find out about it and snatch it away from ya. Like ME.

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Thats the Laminova AWIC they showed on their site right before they went out of business. Wow didn't realize that was a 9 psi system. That would be sweet on a 9:1 compression car or a nice EJ22t block with 10.5:1 compression pistons running meth

Autoror. Very nice. Ive seen a few of those Lightenings with Kenne Belle's name on them.

Are you a mind reader? I am taking an Ej22T block, rebuilding it, overbored, with 9:1 pistons and SOHC Ej25 heads. I was going to use an Ej22E in stock form, but stumbled on a good deal on a turbo block. I've got a v6 manifold and yellow top injectors that will round out the build.

I am actually going to initially throw in a stock EJ25 that I am picking up on Saturday to get the car running while I build the Ej22T, and so I can start to learn to tune the PP. This should be running by June 1.

Hamfist, who's pretty tight with Rimmer and involved with his current projects, tells me that my blower will be really happy around 15psi. So, once the built bottom end is done, I will be looking to alter the pullies and up the boost and retune it...
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My final decision is:

Screw it, im going to be mr responsible. I have two PERFECTLY running cars... Until I get better situated with my job, thats where I will stay.
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ok then. Tip someone here to the seller so that they can grab it. Keep it in the "family"...
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