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Old 07-04-2006, 11:47 AM   #1
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Default AP + ST on european cars

A couple of questions on AP and ST, I am planning to purchase, but I sent an email to Cobb, and so far no answer...

Can I use it on a WRX 2001 (bugeye first model) Italian model?

I want to start tuning from the stock map, can I read the stock map out from the ECU when marrying, and then start working from there?

If I plan to change only realtime parameters, is it possible to purchase ST without AP?

Thanks guys,

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Old 07-04-2006, 12:06 PM   #2
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No, you cannot purchase ST without AP. It is simply a program on your computer that allows you to manipulate the AP maps. Even if you want to change realtime perameters, you still need to have a basemap flashed onto your ECU before you can do that

I would try calling cobb later this week(today is Independence Day) as they may be able to help you out. It does say specifically on their website though that AP is designed for use on North American cars only...
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Old 07-04-2006, 02:08 PM   #3
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IIRC Cobb is working on AP's for other than the domestic market but i don't think they're there yet. I would call them. . . and yes, you need an AP to Run Street Tuner. The first step in installing ST is to marry it to your AP. . .
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:12 AM   #4
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Well then, let's hope they have it for european models ready now, or soon.

Thanks for the info.

And, what about the stock map? Is it possible to read it out of the ECU, and working on that one as a base map?
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:46 AM   #5
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Bad news... I gave Cobb a call yesterday, and they confirmed only US models are supported.

That's a pity, because ST is definitely the tool to go for.

EcuTek in UK does not give their ProTune software to the amateur, so...

I guess I've got to go for another ECU. Big money, and the problem of finding a good start map, similar to stock, to work from.


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