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Old 07-17-2006, 10:31 PM   #1
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Default Is the FPGreen16G and the Deadbolt TD05H 16G the same ?

anyone ? I now dont know which one to choose. I want to use a Cobb Accessport as EM, and I know it has base maps for the FP Green, but I would be getting a protune anyway, so which turbo is better in the end ?

Im looking for anything near 300whp or that, and a good spool up.
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Old 07-17-2006, 10:35 PM   #2
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i believe they are the same, just different companies....but db has the free lifetime rebuilds so i say go with that.....as for me, i went with the fp 16g cause well, i didnt know about the free rebuilds
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anyone ? I now dont know which one to choose. I want to use a Cobb Accessport as EM, and I know it has base maps for the FP Green, but I would be getting a protune anyway, so which turbo is better in the end ?

Im looking for anything near 300whp or that, and a good spool up.
Do you mean the FP 16G or the FP Green. They are 2 very different turbos.

The Deadbolt 16G would be very similar to this except they come coated and have lifetime rebuilds.

The FP Green would be equivalent to the SZ49.
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Old 07-17-2006, 10:53 PM   #4
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Do you mean the FP 16G or the FP Green. They are 2 very different turbos.

The Deadbolt 16G would be very similar to this except they come coated and have lifetime rebuilds.

The FP Green would be equivalent to the SZ49.
I would love to see the look on his face after he ordered a fg green (thinkin it was a 16g), and opened th box

neway some claim a few more ponies on the fp stuff, but deadbolt def. stands behind there product more (thats easy to say since fp doesnt stand behind thier turbos at all, once you buy it, your on your own)

If it was me, i would just have a problem giving money to mitsu, so buy a deadbolt
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Old 07-17-2006, 10:59 PM   #5
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^Yeah. but I've also heard that due to the coating on the Deadbolt stuff, spoolup is a bit faster.

I would pay to see the look when he opened his FP Green 16 G and saw this big a$$ turbo sitting there.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:18 AM   #6
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lol so the FP Green is something massive from what I read. Definitely not for me. I guess im staying with Deadbolt then, like you guys said free rebuilds, you can't really go wrong.

Im pretty new to forced induction so I'll throw in this question right away. When does a turbo need to be rebuilt ? Is it regular turbo maintenance , I.E. done at regular intervals, or only when I need it ?
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:29 AM   #7
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lol so the FP Green is something massive from what I read. Definitely not for me. I guess im staying with Deadbolt then, like you guys said free rebuilds, you can't really go wrong.

Im pretty new to forced induction so I'll throw in this question right away. When does a turbo need to be rebuilt ? Is it regular turbo maintenance , I.E. done at regular intervals, or only when I need it ?
If you treat it well, it could very well not need to be rebuilt. Proper cooldown and break in is key, but just in case something goes wrong its nice to have that option. For instance, a friend on the forums just purchased a 16g from an vendor. A very well known tuner installed it and started breaking the turbo in. Once they got it on the dyno the turbo seized...unfortunately he had to go through quite a bit of hassle to get it fixed

Instead of being out several hundred dollars to rebuild your turbo, you would simply send it back to deadbolt and they would rebuild it to basically new and send it back. Seems like almost a no brainer IMO

BTW...What engine/car are you running this on?
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:59 AM   #8
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It will be going on an 04 wrx. I know about the cool down and warm up of turbos but how do u break in a turbo ? Im guessing u can't start hammering it the day you get it ? Or is there more to it ?
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This was asked before in another thread, and there was *one* response, IIRC:

Have you or anyone you know (first-hand only) recieved a 100% free rebuild from Deadbolt?
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Old 07-19-2006, 10:04 AM   #10
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This was asked before in another thread, and there was *one* response, IIRC:

Have you or anyone you know (first-hand only) recieved a 100% free rebuild from Deadbolt?
Im sure its not 100% free, I think that they just mean labour. You obviously have to pay for shipping, and if parts need replacing, I'll bet they'll charge you for that too.
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if you seize your turbo i doubt deadbolt will rebuild it. I think everyone should read deadbolts "free rebuilds for life" document on thier site. If your turbo acually breaks do to somthing you did, or breaks and needs a new compressor wheel/housing they prob wont fix it (maybe they would if you got a reputable tuner to say it was def the turbo). The doc on thier site says the free rebuilds for life only covers the maintenence aspects of rebuilding the turbo.

On the other hand if i were to actaully break a turbo, i would be in a hell of a lot better position if it was a deadbolt then a fp
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Old 07-19-2006, 10:13 AM   #12
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free rebuilds for life... meh. not as great as you think and i'm yet to hear of a person utilizing that service.. so i don't need it. it'll give me a good excuse to upgrade anyway. not to mention it's NOT that much labor to rebuild it
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Old 07-19-2006, 12:10 PM   #13
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Here is the diffrence between vf39 and a green.
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Old 07-19-2006, 01:13 PM   #14
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Yeah...definitely not the same as a TD05 lol
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I see you did the sppon mod to the VF-39. Sweeeeeet. That a polished spoon too.
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^lmao, spoon mod....
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yep, reflects 20 degrees of heat from the cold side of the turbo, 5whp guarenteed!!!!

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assassin, you understand that there is an FP 16G as well as an FP Green right? and that the FP 16G is very similar to the Deadbolt 16G.
additionally there are also Big 16Gs offered from both companies, as well as a Super 16G from Deadbolt.

I happened to have my turbo at Deadbolt for porting services and he replaced my wheel at no charge, just because it looked like there was some residue on it. I didnt ask him to and he said it wasnt a big deal, but he just wanted to give me a fresh turbo back.
Deadbolts service is AMAZING... I dont know much about FP but I really dont care, because I'll support Deadbolt at any chance I can... their service is really over the top and I have a lot of confidence in their products as well.

If you're curious I own a Deadbolt Super 16G turbo with a ported compressor outlet, and am about to be adding a Deadbolt internal wastegate flapper bracket to that as well to hold my IWG closed while I use my external wastegate setup.

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A FP-Green is a monster and a 16g is a lil guy, no comparison lol. I have an Fp turbo which claims to flow 15cfm more than the deadbolt version, either way is the free rebuilds for life worth the extra $300 that your paying? Think about that one.


Fp-18g (TD05H)
PnP Turbo inlet, exhaust housing
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3-peice gasket set

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Deadbolt 18g (TD05H)
All their goodies listed
Free rebuilds
Coated hot side

$1,295

You do the math! A turbo that has a higher cfm rating for less money, comon now....
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By no means did I want to start a war or a massive turbo company debate which will turn into something that belongs in Nasioc Off-topic. lol
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Sorry guys what I really meant to ask was the differences between the FP16G and the Deadbolt TD05H 16g.

I know deadbolts got the free rebuilds (and from what Im reading good customer service) but putting that aside, which turbo would you guys reccommend for me ?

Im hoping for 300whp out of my car if possible or in that range. What are the differences between those 2 guys ? How do their spool times compare? how does their overall power compare ?

Oh btw, I was planning to get the TD05 16G with the monster Port job, so keep that in mind.
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Get a super 16g from either company, both are about the same. One offers free rebuilds and the other doesn't reason being why one is cheaper.
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The spoon is ported and polished added thirteen more foot pounds.
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Have you or anyone you know (first-hand only) recieved a 100% free rebuild from Deadbolt?
My 18G is getting a free rebuild while it's being converted to a 20G this week.
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Im sure its not 100% free, I think that they just mean labour. You obviously have to pay for shipping, and if parts need replacing, I'll bet they'll charge you for that too.
It means everything but shipping.
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Im hoping for 300whp out of my car if possible or in that range. What are the differences between those 2 guys ? How do their spool times compare? how does their overall power compare ?
You would need a fairly aggressive tune to get 300whp. Deadbolt ports their turbos more than FP, so spool may be a little better.
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As I said, 300 is a goal. and that would only be on my "high boost / race gas map", if i dont get up to 300 I wont shoot myself, but thats what Im aiming for. Im hearing that its rather difficult with the 16gs or requires an agressive tune like you said, but hopefully I'll end up close to that figure.

Thanks for the info boys
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