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Old 07-22-2017, 07:38 AM   #1
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Subaru Sets Fastest Lap Record For A Sedan At Nürburgring

Rain didn't stop the team this time.

Subaru hasn’t let a little rain stop it from lapping the Nürburgring in under seven minutes. After a monsoon scuttled the first attempt, the automaker has returned during sunnier weather at the Green Hell, and the WRX STI Type RA NBR Special lapped the course in 6 minutes and 57.5 seconds. This is a new lap record for a four-door sedan and a time on par with the Porsche 918 Spyder’s 6:57. Subie promises to release a video of the run soon, and we can’t wait to see it.

Subaru WRX STI Type RA NBR Special



To be clear, the NBR Special is not a production car. The Prodrive-built machine uses a 2017 WRX STI at its base but features a rally-spec 2.0-liter turbocharged flat four-cylinder that pumps out 600 horsepower (474 kilowatts). A World-Rally-Championship-spec gearbox channels the power to both axles. This is the same vehicle that Subaru used to lap the Isle of Man TT course and for sprinting up the Goodwood Hill Climb, but the latest evolution added a new body kit for improved handling, including an active rear wing.

While the team was ready, Mother Nature didn’t play along and dumped rain on the track. Given the poor conditions, a lap of about eight minutes was the best the Subie managed.

Five hundred examples of the Type RA’s road-going version will be available in the United States during the first quarter of 2018. While it won’t pack the rally-spec parts of the record-setting model, the hotter STI will have a tuned version of the existing model’s 2.5-liter turbocharged flat four with 310 horsepower (231 kilowatts). The gearbox featured a short-throw shifter and a revised ratio for third gear. Bilstein dampers and tweaked vehicle dynamics control sharpen the handling. Weight falls thanks to a carbon fiber hood and rear wing.

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Subaru WRX STI Type RA NBR Special is nearly as fast as a Porsche 918 Spyder at the Nurburgring

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/21/s...burgring-time/
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Old 07-23-2017, 12:50 AM   #2
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So basically a race car. Still pretty impressive. I'm surprised some German wundersedan doesn't have a faster time.
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Old 07-23-2017, 01:03 AM   #3
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So they brought a race car to set a lap record at the track which is used to differentiate road legal cars.
So they've just proven to themselves a properly set up race car is faster around the ring than any road legal 4 door car.
What's the point? Does anyone care?
The only reason they were able to set this record in the first place is because the cars they are measuring against are just tuned road cars.
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Old 07-23-2017, 10:21 AM   #4
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They brought back the STI Type RA which stands for "record attempt" at the Nurburgring. For two months they said "the weather" was causing delays in them getting a time with the stock version. I suspect they were embarrassed by the time of the stock version; likely slower than the new Type R time that got everyone's attention and they needed to save face somehow.
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Old 07-23-2017, 11:00 AM   #5
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So they brought a race car to set a lap record at the track which is used to differentiate road legal cars.
So they've just proven to themselves a properly set up race car is faster around the ring than any road legal 4 door car.
What's the point? Does anyone care?
The only reason they were able to set this record in the first place is because the cars they are measuring against are just tuned road cars.
according to wikipedia, it's the 5th fastest non road legal car and the 3rd fastest race car.
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Old 07-23-2017, 01:15 PM   #6
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They brought back the STI Type RA which stands for "record attempt" at the Nurburgring. For two months they said "the weather" was causing delays in them getting a time with the stock version. I suspect they were embarrassed by the time of the stock version; likely slower than the new Type R time that got everyone's attention and they needed to save face somehow.

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That subie is definitely race adapted, not sure it can be any more race. Prodrive did a hell of a job at tuning it, but the Porsche they compare is a street car with all creature comforts...and still comes out a little faster. Also, how much of the hood, roof, and rear wing is carbon?
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Old 07-23-2017, 02:17 PM   #8
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Gutted, caged, purpose built race car vs a production car you could go to starbucks in as easily as run the nbr, who cares.
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Old 07-23-2017, 02:56 PM   #9
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Gutted, caged, purpose built race car vs a production car you could go to starbucks in as easily as run the nbr, who cares.
Yeah to me this is a pointless exercise. It's like an Olympic sprinter bragging about beating a bunch of high school athletes in a 100m dash.
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Couldn't Prodrive have built a 2.5 liter monster engine to at least promote the US release? 207 not needed if they are doing a full build race engine anyhow.
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Couldn't Prodrive have built a 2.5 liter monster engine to at least promote the US release? 207 not needed if they are doing a full build race engine anyhow.
The 2.5 would break....
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Old 07-23-2017, 05:58 PM   #12
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Couldn't Prodrive have built a 2.5 liter monster engine to at least promote the US release? 207 not needed if they are doing a full build race engine anyhow.
The EJ207 can rev, the EJ257 not so much. You can make it strong and powerful but won't be from revving it to 8400.

Those extra RPMs are necessary for the speeds involved.

So far, the EJ207 is the best engine Subaru has. And has been all too long. Hopefully, soon, that can change and there'll be a new best engine, and Subaru's race cars reflect the actual production versions... at least the engine in their flagship STi.
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:51 PM   #13
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So they brought a race car to set a lap record at the track which is used to differentiate road legal cars.
So they've just proven to themselves a properly set up race car is faster around the ring than any road legal 4 door car.
What's the point? Does anyone care?
The only reason they were able to set this record in the first place is because the cars they are measuring against are just tuned road cars.
The only people that care are the people who keep Blue Subaru logo'd dildos in their night stands and internet wannabe racers.

There is no governing body at the ring. And the manus always modify their cars so it's a completely pointless exercise. That car is completely gutted, there isn't even a passenger seat. Look at the chin spoiler, it's sitting right on the tarmac.

It's called marketing folks. Some see right through it, others fall right in it.
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^^ LOL!! One of your better posts in recent weeks Pre!
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I think I will have to side with James May on this. Any car tuned for 'the Ring' is crap on the streets. I just hate it that old James beat me to it.
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That subie is definitely race adapted, not sure it can be any more race. Prodrive did a hell of a job at tuning it, but the Porsche they compare is a street car with all creature comforts...and still comes out a little faster. Also, how much of the hood, roof, and rear wing is carbon?
This is not the watered down version that Subaru is releasing 500 of. This is the RA NBR Special. It is night and day compared to the production RA.
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Mind explaining what's off about that analysis?
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So they brought a race car to set a lap record at the track which is used to differentiate road legal cars.
So they've just proven to themselves a properly set up race car is faster around the ring than any road legal 4 door car.
What's the point? Does anyone care?
The only reason they were able to set this record in the first place is because the cars they are measuring against are just tuned road cars.
And the Subaru isn't even "stanced"!
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:33 PM   #19
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Spot on mate

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So they brought a race car to set a lap record at the track which is used to differentiate road legal cars.
So they've just proven to themselves a properly set up race car is faster around the ring than any road legal 4 door car.
What's the point? Does anyone care?
The only reason they were able to set this record in the first place is because the cars they are measuring against are just tuned road cars.
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Thats a great effort and a brilliant drive irrespective of the nature of the car. Good for them Anyone that truly enjoys driving and understands what it like to drive at speed, on the the clock, knows that was a great drive.

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Old 07-25-2017, 06:10 AM   #21
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Why all the hate for a Subaru on a Subaru forum?
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Nobody said it was not a great drive
But Subaru brought a trained MMA fighter to a yellow belt test
Then bragged that he beat the 9 year old girl with pig tails

It's not that we don't love Subaru

We just hate braggers
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Nobody said it was not a great drive
But Subaru brought a trained MMA fighter to a yellow belt test
Then bragged that he beat the 9 year old girl with pig tails

It's not that we don't love Subaru

We just hate braggers
It's faster than a Ferarri 599XX. Granted the 599 is quite a bit older but its still impressive to see Subaru make a faster track car than Ferarri considering what they are working with.
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Subaru needs to publish the $ they have tied up in the car. Tranny alone is like $175K or something... probably $750K-$1M worth of Subaru. At least.
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Why all the hate for a Subaru on a Subaru forum?
Telling the truth is hate? It's a publicity stunt and marketing, and not impressive in the least. There is no governing body at the ring so it's not a race or even a timed trial when everyone does not agree on the rules. I'd love to drive the Nurburgring but I've been over the times for many years. I'd be interested if they ran cars straight off the production line.

Bespoke this and that racing against one, I mean it is absolutely pointless. X car did X time, with a bunch of custom sheot done to the car. Wow the overwhelm, I many not be able to sleep tonight!
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