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Old 10-27-2006, 05:08 AM   #1
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i have an 03 wrx and i am finally willing to do some minor (budget) modding.
so heres the deal, im getting a DHM elec. cutout and wanted to put it RIGHT at the beginning of the downpipe that would eventually go out the side of the car...turns out theres a cat there...my exhaust is completely stock. I wanna shoot some flames tho (i know that sounds childish...just bear with my childishness, no flaming (no pun)), plus i want to get the most performance-wise for a small amount of money. Would getting a cutout that would eliminate only 1 cat really make a difference? Also can i just weld it to the cat on the downpipe? I'm not sure if the muffler guy will gut it for me and i cant afford to get a new downpipe, and i dont feel like gutting it myself. would just getting rid of 1 cat allow me to shoot some flames/backfire etc...

what would you do? i've done a lot of research but havent found answers this specific...

i know i am inviting flaming, but seriously, just help a brother out, we are all different. thanks
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Old 10-27-2006, 05:53 AM   #2
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uhhh, im gona hold back on the flaming, but I personally will buy a plane ticket to pimp smack you if you do this.
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Old 10-27-2006, 05:57 AM   #3
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why?? a lot of people do this...search qtp, badlanz, or dhm elec cutouts and a ton of people love this setup and have gotten great gains from it. i mainly want it for the gains, but in my certain situation i'm not exactly sure what the best route would be... that is all
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Old 10-27-2006, 06:03 AM   #4
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you really can't even afford the ~$200 HKS catless downpipe? That, plus a cutout, would be pretty mean. Oh, and a $100 ebay uppipe would make it a complete exhaust package. I'm not even gonna touch the flame topic, just make sure you have a pipe to direct exhaust gasses from the cutout to the outside of the car, unless you want carbon monoxide poisoning (you don't).
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Old 10-27-2006, 06:44 AM   #5
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...w 0 w....just....w 0 w.
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:42 AM   #6
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unless you want carbon monoxide poisoning (you don't).
maybe he doesn't, but the rest of us might appeciate it for anyone that wants their subaru to shoot flames. to the OP, you do realize there are not one, but THREE cats hidden away?
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:54 AM   #7
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I say replace the UP cat with the cutout. That would be loud.

Most people replace the downpipe and put the cutout on the bottom of the downpipe closest to the ground.
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:57 AM   #8
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I wanna shoot some flames would just getting rid of 1 cat allow me to shoot some flames/backfire etc...
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:02 PM   #9
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youre funny!
doing any mods ON the stock exhaust is pointless. upgrade it first and then you can get decent gains with something like this, but dont put it right after the turbo, wheres it going to vent to, wheres it gonna fit?? They are bigger than you think
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:37 PM   #10
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youre funny!
doing any mods ON the stock exhaust is pointless. upgrade it first and then you can get decent gains with something like this, but dont put it right after the turbo, wheres it going to vent to, wheres it gonna fit?? They are bigger than you think
So doing mods ON the stock exhaust, such as gutting the downpipe and uppipe are pointless? thats basically what i'm doing except i'm venting it to the side instead of going straight, A LOT of people have done this with very noticeable gains...think about it why wouldnt they get gains when so much restriction is reduced? QTP got a 30 hp gain with this, hardly pointless IMO. i've already done the research i'm just looking for additional thought from what i'm already doing.
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Old 10-27-2006, 01:18 PM   #11
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Get some really high octane gas and a BOV, that way when you shift it will burn rich and when it burns again, there will be huge flames and backfires.... not that this route is good for your car, but this is what you were requesting... ohh and if you do get a BOV, NO CATS. You will fry the cats with the rich shifts and probably actually start a fire.
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Old 10-27-2006, 01:50 PM   #12
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This guy just wants to, instead of buying a turbo back, put in a dump pipe. He hopes it will shoot flames.

He will need a new Uppipe (maybe), and a new Downpipe or at least de-cat the down pipe. Then weld in the Y-pipe of the cut out, then weld (off of the dump side) a side exiting pipe that will exit somewhere other then under the car.

I would do a new Up (or gutted Up), to a cheap DP that I wouldn't care about cutting into (best would be buy a used Ebay or HKS), The third Cat could remain as long as the DP doesn't replace it (if it does, well it doesn't matter).

If you made this set up I described, you would maybe get flames after going WOT, but it would be short "popping" bursts and it definetly wouldn't be often.

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A cut out is a good solution for a track day person. You could run a quiet exhaust daily then open up the dump pipe at the track. But you would really have to be tuned for it to matter. You could keep the third cat or run a high flow 3rd cat and keep the stock muffler, then have it wide open.
But doing it for flames.... well that gets you the responses you got.

You see, NASIOC is afraid of change and different peoples ideas. Any chance to pounce on something new, will be taken advantage of. You must be like everyone else, you have been here since 2003 you should have known that people would respond with no help. Some did offer help though.
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Old 10-27-2006, 01:54 PM   #13
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We're not afraid of change but it's stupid the way he described it.. RIGHT after the turbo. Put it in the regular spot if you're so concerned about wanting a flame thrower.

Also, people are correct; there is barely any room as the downpipe bends down towards the car. There's this thing called the firewall that might prevent a cutout to be installed there.
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:00 PM   #14
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You could do a "Jersey Dump".

That is the downpipe with the Y right before the last turn (the turn backwards) then it exhausts right to the ground. But if you stand still like this you will probably die from poisoning. If you put it in with the Dump Side of the Y facing forward it would fit.

I did not coin the phrase Jersey Dump, that is an old term and I don't believe it has ever even been applied to a Subaru.
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:20 PM   #15
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1. Get an ebay catless DP and UP.
2. Put the cutout in the regular location
3. You will spit flames. Sometimes, I get a big explosion when I let off in 3rd gear after really jamming on it. My tune leaned me out a little bit but I still get a few fireballs.
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:24 PM   #16
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:33 PM   #17
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I say replace the UP cat with the cutout. That would be loud.
That's awesome

To save a few bucks he could just take out the turbo and shoot flames out the hood scoop.
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:37 PM   #18
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Here's a suggestion: how about you NOT ghetto your car all to hell for the measley 10hp it will give you and just drive the car. The WRX already has a bad enough image among other drivers without you reinforcing their stereotypes.
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Old 10-27-2006, 03:30 PM   #19
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you know on ebay you can get a device that makes flames shoot out of your car... could be the best route for your needs..lol
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Old 10-27-2006, 03:35 PM   #20
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If you want to backfire:

downpipe, uppipe, catback exhaust (all catless) get yourself some EM, then get yourself anti-lag. Your turbo won't last very long, but every time you rev your car a bit you will backfire, guaranteed. Search for the videos on this forum or on youtube of WRX backfires or WRX anti-lag.

Just remember, you're xx years old, and maybe next year or the year after you might not be into the whole backfireing impressing people scene, and then it will be too late for you to want a normal car again, because your car will be fried and you will not have any money left over for a decent ride. Plus, the attention from the cops.
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:13 PM   #21
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Here's a suggestion: how about you NOT ghetto your car all to hell for the measley 10hp it will give you and just drive the car. The WRX already has a bad enough image among other drivers without you reinforcing their stereotypes.
Cutouts are not ghetto, they work quite well. As for measley, try 17whp and 25lb/ft of torque.
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:14 PM   #22
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you know on ebay you can get a device that makes flames shoot out of your car... could be the best route for your needs..lol
Those won't work with Subaru's coil pack ignition system. Believe me, I already tried.
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:28 PM   #23
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a flame thrower.......DOIT!!! get pics. make sure your type-r stickers are showing too.

i cant wait...
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:44 PM   #24
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Haha so true...

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a flame thrower.......DOIT!!! get pics. make sure your type-r stickers are showing too.

i cant wait...
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:58 PM   #25
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Lightbulb huh

okay i think you all got me wrong when i posted...

i dont want a fake flamethrower kit, im more concerned with performance...
and if none of you give a flying **** about backfiring/flames, why do a lot of you make videos of backfiring and post them on here and then comment on how cool it looks...even in the videos its like "hey get ready here comes the backfire...wow..awesome"

Also...right after the turbo..use your head, if i literally meant RIGHT after the turbo why wouldnt i just disconnect my exhaust altogether? If i said there was a cat there, and should i gut the cat, wouldn't that assume that i already knew there was no room between the turbo and the cat. If i thought i could put it before the cat, then why would i ask if it would make much of a difference if i were to gut it or not...?

Also the reason i'm doing this and not a full turbo back exhaust, is because, i am XX years now, and after so long i might not like it anymore, so i can just turn it off when i don't want to hear it, or when coppers roll by.

also, don't give me the ricer ****, i don't have one exterior modification, and WOW i'm actually asking about a SLEEPER modification...so where exactly does rice come into play? morons...all of you guys are making the WRX scene look bad (its not bad at all by the way who ever said that) by making uneducated comments like these.

thanks to those with the brains that responded appropriately and have some common sense...
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