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Old 11-08-2006, 07:19 AM   #1
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Default BMW shooting brake and MPV revealed (Car Mag UK)

BMW shooting brake and MPV revealed (Car Mag UK)


Two more niche BMWs
BMW plans to spin this sporty, three-door estate and an MPV off the 3-series. CAR Online today reveals the look and concept of these two newcomers, as Munich steps up its niche model offensive. In 2009, the 'shooting brake' – a three-door, compact estate – should hit showrooms. Following a year later is the AST (advanced sports tourer), a tall version of the 3-series Touring. Both will run upgraded engines and introduce new technology, revealed here.

The 3-series shooting brake seats four like Volvo's C30, and has fold flat rear seats to boost practicality. Due in 2009, it only has three doors, to differentiate it from the Touring. And this versatile vehicle will even have the feel of open top motoring, thanks to an optional extra-large sunroof.

BMW pondered two other scenarios for its sporty estate: one based on the 1-series to take on Audi’s A3 Sportback; the other a stretched roof version of the 6-series. But the winning ticket is underpinned by the 3-series, using the coupe's front end and the Touring's spacious rear to sandwich a unique centre section.

BMW's mid-size MPV – put on ice because the design team couldn't get the looks and proportions right – is back on. The marketing team describe it as a 'stylish yet functional people mover' which remains true to BMW's 'ultimate driving machine' values. Driver-oriented gadgets include the super-quick active steering rack, xDrive four-wheel drive and Dynamic Drive anti-roll bars.

The five-door, four or five-seat van is bang on the size of Renault's Grand Scenic, but the look is more dynamic and emotional. BMW will pitch the car as a practical alternative to the Mercedes C-class estate and Audi A4 Avant, but with a higher seating position and extra space. With the rear seats in place, cargo capacity is 450 litres, around the same as a 3-series Touring. But fold them flat, and AST has a 300 litre advantage over its sister car.

BMW expects the market for sporty high-roof vehicles to grow by 45 per cent between 2006 and 2015, and believes its AST will shift between 60,000 and 120,000 units per year.

More powerful engines from 2008…
Engine Power upgrade
318i petrol four 143bhp (was 129bhp)
320i petrol four 163bhp (was 150bhp)
330i petrol six 265bhp (was 258bhp)
318d diesel four 136bhp (was 122bhp)
320d diesel four 177bhp (was 163bhp)
330d diesel six 245bhp (was 231bhp)
335d diesel six 300bhp (was 286bhp)

…and new technology
The engines may be tweaked for more grunt, but don't expect any hybrid power for the 3-series. The mid-ranger isn't a top priority for the hybrid joint-venture with DaimlerChrysler and GM. A spin-off from this alliance, however, could mean Benz’s nitrogen oxide-reducing Bluetech system, which uses urea injection to neutralise pollutants, could land on 3-series diesels.

On the transmission front, BMW is preparing three important innovations. SSG stands for a quicker automated manual gearbox, which also helps reduce consumption by up to six percent. Then there's DKG, a dual-clutch tranny supplied by ZF, which is BMW's answer to VW Group’s DSG ‘box. There is also a new SMG sequential manual gearbox on the way, which can pre-select gears and cuts shift times in half.
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:35 AM   #2
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i guess i'm moving to europe! (shooting brake looks awesome!)
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:43 AM   #3
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even that mpv is acceptable.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:03 PM   #4
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the MPV looks like a Toyota Matrix from the A-pillar back. the shooting brake is hot
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:30 PM   #5
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That wagon/van is rather nice.

The 1-series hatch of course is hot stuff
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:43 PM   #6
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This could be very similar to the looks and model lineup of the next Impreza/WRX/STI.

Also, notice the 3-door has frameless windows but the 5-door doesn't.
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Old 11-08-2006, 03:04 PM   #7
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Shooting Brake looks sweet... man, 2009? Darnit. See my thread about a fun RWD I can fit my dogs in.
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There are some other pictures out today suggesting the Z4 may get a targa top soon.
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Didn't Audi have a concept named Shooting Brake...?

... What does that even MEAN?!
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Old 11-08-2006, 07:50 PM   #10
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The BMW shooting brake looks kick ass. 3-series but smaller and with a hatch?! Sign me up.... well except that we will never get this on this side of the pond.

BTW - I wonder if that would hurt BMW's own MINI sales? (or do they share any components?)
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Old 11-08-2006, 08:57 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by r0bman View Post
Didn't Audi have a concept named Shooting Brake...?

... What does that even MEAN?!
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Shooting-brake is a car body style indicating luxury estate cars built for use by hunters.

The body was usually custom built. An early manufacturer of shooting brakes was Albion Motors of Scotland. There are existing examples of custom-built Bentley S2, Mercedes 300, and also the Aston Martin DBS Shooting Brake.

VG, a small US coachbuilder, offers a model named VGD Shooting Brake.

Some modern manufacturers, such as Audi, have recently referred to some concept cars as shooting brakes, although today the term may be used to refer to any estate car and in Europe some motor manufacturers refer to the estate bodies of their line-up as the brake or break - the spelling depending on the country. The Ford Scorpio was a modern example of this usage.


A brake, also known as a break, was a type of horse-drawn carriage used in the nineteenth and early 20th centuries. It was a large or small, open-topped vehicle with four wheels and designed for country use . The form usually met, the "shooting brake", was designed to carry the driver and a gamekeeper at the front, facing forward and up to six sportsmen on longditudinal benches, with their dogs, guns and game carried alongside in slat-sided racks.

In the early 19th century, a break was a large carriage-frame with no body, used for "breaking in" young horses. By the late 19th century the meaning had been extended to also mean a large waggonette.
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:43 AM   #12
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^^^ the nice thing about wikipedia, is you can go in there and change and update things... so maybe someone should go in, and update it so it includes new BMW and Audi 3 door hatches
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