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Old 01-15-2007, 04:36 PM   #1
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Anyone subscribe to Automotive News? There's an article in today's (I think it's today's) issue on the new 'Beca—but I can't access it because I'm not a subscriber.

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Old 01-15-2007, 05:03 PM   #2
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B9 Tribeca: New look, more power

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Subaru is revamping its slow-selling B-9 Tribeca crossover after only two years on the market.

The B-9 Tribeca, with controversial styling and a too-small engine that requires premium fuel, is selling at roughly half its projected rate.

The 2008 version that will be launched in May gets new front and rear styling and a more powerful engine that uses regular gasoline. And access to the rear seats will be improved, says Kunio Ishigami, CEO of Subaru of America. Subaru earlier had characterized changes to the vehicle as a minor freshening.

Subaru is responding to poor sales and criticisms of the crossover, says Ishigami. The highly polarizing design evoked a "50-50 reaction" among consumers, says Ishigami.

The B-9 Tribeca has never met Subaru's initial U.S. sales target of 3,000 units a month, or 36,000 units a year. Last year Subaru sold 18,614 B-9 Tribecas in the United States.

Subaru has offered lease programs as low as $299 per month for 36 months. Its supply has been as high as 120 days.

It is offering a $329 monthly lease rate for 36 months.

Dale Walker, owner of Walker's Renton Subaru in Renton, Wash., says more buyers will embrace the new version of the B-9 Tribeca.

"Once you get customers into the vehicle, they like it," he says. "It's the exterior appearance that is polarizing them."

With the styling changes and a more powerful engine that runs on regular gasoline, "Our numbers will go up," Walker says.

Ishigami doesn't mince words: Subaru wants higher sales from its flagship. The B-9 Tribeca is built at Subaru's U.S. factory in Lafayette, Ind., and exported to Europe and Japan.

Ishigami says the new front end is less radical and likely to attract more buyers. The rear was changed to improve visibility, responding to another owner complaint, says Ishigami.

Buyers asked Subaru for more power, so the 2008 B-9 Tribeca gets a 3.6-liter, six-cylinder boxer powerplant. It currently has a 3.0-liter six-cylinder engine.

Rear access to the second and third row of seats has been improved, but the overall dimensions of the B-9 Tribeca haven't changed, says Ishigami.

Subaru won't change the price of the B-9 Tribeca. But Ishigami hinted that Subaru may put more standard equipment on the crossover. The 2007 B-9 Tribeca starts at $30,620, including shipping, for the five-passenger version.

Ishigami says Subaru won't offer higher incentives to run out the B-9 Tribeca but has cut production so that the supply dwindles.

You may e-mail Diana T. Kurylko at [email protected]
Basically, no new information.
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Old 01-15-2007, 05:15 PM   #3
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The news about the 3.6 F-6 engine was news for me.
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Old 01-15-2007, 05:21 PM   #4
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B9 Tribeca: New look, more power



Basically, no new information.
It is confirmation though...
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Old 01-15-2007, 05:26 PM   #5
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It is confirmation though...
isn't this calling the kettle black
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Old 01-15-2007, 06:05 PM   #6
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Sound like the 3.6 is across the board, not just an option or on higher-end B9s ...
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Old 01-15-2007, 06:11 PM   #7
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Sound like the 3.6 is across the board, not just an option or on higher-end B9s ...
exactly... thats what i was thinking as well.. i wonder how they can make the 3rd row more accessible .. maybe a 2nd row that rolls forward kinda like in some SUVs and minivans... but overall the major complaints were always the power and styling, and RARELY did i get someone that complained about the rear visibility.. overall sounds like good news BUT i'm guessing the 3.6 is gonna have poorer gas mileage than the 3.0... i'd be curious to see the new horsepower numbersand tq numbers for the 3.6.. funny how subaru compares the b9 to the Murano, but never really thought of the 3.5 in the murano as a engine worth comparing to instead of using the 3.0 from the X5
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Old 01-15-2007, 06:54 PM   #8
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I hadn't heard about the rear end getting redone. It will be interesting to see if they recycle more rear style from the 9-6.

Peace,

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Old 01-15-2007, 07:12 PM   #9
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If it launches in May, then it'll probably debut at the New York Auto Show in April (again, hardly news...)
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Old 01-15-2007, 07:33 PM   #10
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isn't this calling the kettle black
ha ha... i didn't confirm it... but now obviously i did by acknowledging it. I was surprised that Ishigami-san spoke about it so soon.
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Old 01-15-2007, 08:01 PM   #11
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The Euro-beca already has 3rd row access from both sides of the vehicle rather than curb side as the US one has.
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Old 01-15-2007, 08:27 PM   #12
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I still want that engine in my car...
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Old 01-15-2007, 08:41 PM   #13
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/\/\/\+1 but, with some turbos attached to it! yay.
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Old 01-15-2007, 09:00 PM   #14
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Naw, screw the turbo's, I wouldnt want to deal with all that drivetrain hassle

I wounder if it could be bored out to 4.0 litres?
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I've been informed by well-placed sources that the new Tribeca will more closely resemble the cancelled Saab version, especially in how the front-end is arranged. Notice the on-top headlights of the Tribeca have been replaced with more of a typical on-front headlight layout on the Saab version?




Now, imagine those images with a grille and healights similar to that of the '08 Outback and I think we can picture how the '08 Tribeca looks from the front. Photoshoppers, I'd love to see one of you mock this up...



From the rear, I'd imagine full third row windows rather than the wedge thing current SUVs seem to be all over including the current Tribeca and Murano so there is less of a blind spot. This image isn't totally representative, but I'd iimagine its smoother creaseless appearance would probably carry over to the ''08.
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Old 01-15-2007, 10:42 PM   #16
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good find bob and phoenix. cool to hear that the 3.6 is officially official!

now everyone can continue to speculate on power output!
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Old 01-15-2007, 11:19 PM   #17
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I really really hope that engine will fit in a GC.
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If an SVX motor can fit...
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I've been informed by well-placed sources that the new Tribeca will more closely resemble the cancelled Saab version, especially in how the front-end is arranged. Notice the on-top headlights of the Tribeca have been replaced with more of a typical on-front headlight layout on the Saab version?



Now, imagine those images with a grille and healights similar to that of the '08 Outback and I think we can picture how the '08 Tribeca looks from the front. Photoshoppers, I'd love to see one of you mock this up...


From the rear, I'd imagine full third row windows rather than the wedge thing current SUVs seem to be all over including the current Tribeca and Murano so there is less of a blind spot. This image isn't totally representative, but I'd iimagine its smoother creaseless appearance would probably carry over to the ''08.

Ive heard the saab comparison also. Reason was someone decided it looked better and the stamping dies were already manufactuered (tons of money for those). Im not sure the front bumper cover will look like the saab though because that has nothing to do with stamping dies.
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Subaru won't change the price of the B-9 Tribeca. But Ishigami hinted that Subaru may put more standard equipment on the crossover.

Any ideas about this? Good news. Can't wait to see the engine #s.
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Subaru won't change the price of the B-9 Tribeca. But Ishigami hinted that Subaru may put more standard equipment on the crossover.

Any ideas about this? Good news. Can't wait to see the engine #s.
That is bad news to me. I'd like to see the base Tribeca starting AFTER destination under $30k.
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There are far too many standard features on a Tribeca to offer one for under $30k...
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There are far too many standard features on a Tribeca to offer one for under $30k...
Indeed.

However, invoice price (after destination) starts at $28,936, which isn't bad at all.
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Subaru won't change the price of the B-9 Tribeca. But Ishigami hinted that Subaru may put more standard equipment on the crossover.

Any ideas about this? Good news. Can't wait to see the engine #s.
more features? i hope its the following:

HIDs
Bluetooth
Voice activation navi,
Power rear liftgate
Cooled seats
Reverse tilt outside mirrors
Rear auto climate control
a REAL UPGRADED STEREO or at least the wOw in the B9
Memory outside mirrors and steering wheel
Curtain air bags for all 3 rows
Bigger gas tank
SI cruise

a LOT of the features i got from the new MDX vs. B9 comparo
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The news about the 3.6 F-6 engine was news for me.
Ditto.. Subaru must of been tight lipped about that for awhile.
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