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Old 07-17-2017, 08:58 PM   #1
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I've lately been having impure thoughts. At night, sometimes I think about the new 2018 Mustang GT, with 'significantly improved' handling and yet-to-be-announced increases in HP/TQ...

My 300 WHP (298 to be exact) 2017 STI Limited is hawt, no doubt. But it's going to cost me my left nut to mod her to a more respectable horsepower. The GT comes stock with much more.

I'm thinking about getting a few more mods on the STI right now to hopefully bring her to about 350 WHP. But I'm probably going to drop $6-8K on that (and that doesn't even shore up the engine).

I do like the look of my all back STI. Although now I wish I had the newer version with 19" wheels...

One alternative to the GT is the Type RA STI. But I'm guessing that will be at least $50K (maybe $60K because it's limited?). Which I would never pay for a 310 hp car...

Bah, someone talk some sense into me!
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:18 PM   #2
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Just watch one of the many video compilations of mustangs and their genius and skillful drivers spinning out into crowds of people
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:25 PM   #3
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Test drive a Camaro SS.
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:26 PM   #4
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I've lately been having impure thoughts. At night, sometimes I think about the new 2018 Mustang GT, with 'significantly improved' handling and yet-to-be-announced increases in HP/TQ...

My 300 WHP (298 to be exact) 2017 STI Limited is hawt, no doubt. But it's going to cost me my left nut to mod her to a more respectable horsepower. The GT comes stock with much more.

I'm thinking about getting a few more mods on the STI right now to hopefully bring her to about 350 WHP. But I'm probably going to drop $6-8K on that (and that doesn't even shore up the engine).

I do like the look of my all back STI. Although now I wish I had the newer version with 19" wheels...

One alternative to the GT is the Type RA STI. But I'm guessing that will be at least $50K (maybe $60K because it's limited?). Which I would never pay for a 310 hp car...

Bah, someone talk some sense into me!
I'd stay away. Once you get it and realize oh $*** I made a mistake, then the real mistake comes when you realize the crappy residual value those things carry. Keep your 17 and be happy. You can always buy 19's.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:07 PM   #5
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Just monetarily that wouldn't make sense. For me at least. You pulled the trigger on your sti for a reason, I'm assuming like any other level headed person you did at least a little research that satisfied you enough for the price point of the sti. Why back it so soon to get yourself into a car that will depreciate a lot quicker. Unless you have the disposable cash to not be bothered, in that case I would just buy the mustang as a 2nd vehicle to satiate my v8 fix.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:31 AM   #6
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OP I have this same thought too all the time. Sweetened further because my local

Ford dealer will mod them for you up to 500whp (on 16-17) with full exhaust and dyno tune AND retain oem warranty because Ford did the work.

Its really a great deal and I even have a winter beater pick up so its not like id be stranded come Jan.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:39 AM   #7
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What I've always thought while driving my STI is I wish the tires had less sidewall and a more bumpy ride. I'd also like some nasty green calipers and no fog lights.

I've been tempted by the MGT. My dad has a 2016. I don't think the line lock will ever get used. They just feel too common for me.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:41 AM   #8
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Do a track day or autocross day. Do a road rally. Get to know what your STI can do and spend more time in it. Yes it is not a 0-60 car, but 40-100 is damn fun on the twisties.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:16 AM   #9
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Unless you just have to have AWD I say go for it.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:54 AM   #10
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:12 AM   #11
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Mustangs can be a lot of fun but it depends what you want/need from your car. Even with snow tires on it your STI will out perform it in winter with just all season tires. The same is true for curvy roads and things like auto cross/rally cross/and many tracks. However if you're looking for a fast 0-60 car that goes in more of a straight line go for the Mustang, they say there's no replacement for displacement and a MGT with 500 WHP has plenty.
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:15 AM   #12
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Mustangs can be a lot of fun but it depends what you want/need from your car. Even with snow tires on it your STI will out perform it in winter with just all season tires. The same is true for curvy roads and things like auto cross/rally cross/and many tracks. However if you're looking for a fast 0-60 car that goes in more of a straight line go for the Mustang, they say there's no replacement for displacement and a MGT with 500 WHP has plenty.
Is a mustang these days really just a straight line car? I didnt think the STI could even hang with it on a track either nowadays.
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:23 AM   #13
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Is a mustang these days really just a straight line car? I didnt think the STI could even hang with it on a track either nowadays.
That's why I'm saying MORE of a straight line (relative to the STI). Mustangs have definitely come a long way and are a lot of fun. AWD will always be slightly better in tight turns in my experience
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:10 PM   #14
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Mustang GT beats an STI by nearly 5 seconds on this track.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...d-more-feature

If power output was similar, the STI would probably keep up or beat it, but that's the whole point. You can buy a car with more power, still handles great and retains a warranty.

As others have said, if you can live without the AWD, get the Mustang.
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:40 PM   #15
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Test drive a Camaro SS.
I second this. 455hp, 455 ft-lbs, on the Alpha platform.
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:50 PM   #16
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LOL you think you are crazy?

I just turned down a $29k Outback Limited with only 15 thousand miles on it for a $24k 2017 Impreza Sport.

LOL Many would look at is as a downgrade.
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:22 PM   #17
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It's a Mustang. All post-1960s Fords are turds. Do you like turds?
If you are going to buy RWD American Muscle, buy Muscle.
Go with a Corvette. A high trim level one of course.
Simple as that.
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:34 PM   #18
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It's a Mustang. All post-1960s Fords are turds. Do you like turds?
If you are going to buy RWD American Muscle, buy Muscle.
Go with a Corvette. A high trim level one of course.
Simple as that.

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Old 07-18-2017, 02:35 PM   #19
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Unfortunately, that is the 350 and not a 500 and still nowhere near the capability of a proper Corvette. Just sayin'....
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:39 PM   #20
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It's a Mustang. All post-1960s Fords are turds. Do you like turds?
If you are going to buy RWD American Muscle, buy Muscle.
Go with a Corvette. A high trim level one of course.
Simple as that.
IMO a Corvette is not a muscle car. It's a sports car in a whole better league than muscle cars. Sure it shares the same engine etc with the muscle car Camaro (which IMO isn't really a what a muscle car used to be) but the Corvette is a whole other animal. Muscle cars, like Chevy own Camaro are definitely closing the gap though.
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:41 PM   #21
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I'd rather have a Z06 too, just saying they aren't all turds.
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:12 PM   #22
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That's why I'm saying MORE of a straight line (relative to the STI). Mustangs have definitely come a long way and are a lot of fun. AWD will always be slightly better in tight turns in my experience
awd doesnt make you turn better....
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:16 PM   #23
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awd doesnt make you turn better....


When powering out of one it does. I'm not saying that it will allow you to make turns at stupid speeds. I'm saying it helps you during turns
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When powering out of one it does. I'm not saying that it will allow you to make turns at stupid speeds. I'm saying it helps you during turns
I would argue there is more to it than that. Not all of the fastest cars are awd... quite a few are not.
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:26 PM   #25
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I would argue there is more to it than that. Not all of the fastest cars are awd... quite a few are not.


There is definitely more to it than that. I'm not saying all fast cars need to be AWD because it's perfect. There are pros and cons to all drive platforms.
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