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View Poll Results: Would you rather own 2012 WRX + 2014 2.7L Porsche Cayman OR 2018 Focus RS LE
2012 WRX + 2014 2.7L Porsche Cayman 5 83.33%
2018 Ford Focus RS LE 1 16.67%
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:24 PM   #1
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Howdy all,

I am in the market for either a second car or replacement of my primary car. So here is my situation; I currently own a 2012 WRX sedan (premium trim if that matters). I bought the car new (Only has 60K miles now) and it is very recently paid off, which is pretty awesome. I still love every drive in the WRX. I'm currently looking to either replace the WRX with another car or, since its paid off, buy a second car. Below are two options I'm currently looking at though other suggestions are welcome.

Option 1:
Keep the WRX for winter driving, utility when needed and buy a used 981 base cayman (manual transmission of course) for daily duties. We average about 300 days of sun where I live so the Cayman would get a lot of road time. So basically have two slightly used cars that drive very differently.

Option 2:
Trade the WRX in for a 2018 Ford Focus RS limited edition. I currently have one on order that I got a decent deal on. Should arrive in a month or so, which gives me some time to think it over. So basically one brand new car for everyday use.

Option 3:
Open to suggestions!

Last note, I have test drove both the 2.7L base cayman once (a few days ago) and the Focus RS twice. Both are amazing machines in their own right.

I understand that there will be bias based on where I'm posting. Would love opinions and thoughts on what you guys/gals would do.

TL;DR: Would you rather own a 2012 WRX + 2014 Cayman (2.7l) or a 2018 Ford Focus RS?

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Old 11-13-2017, 10:36 PM   #2
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Focus RS has some serious problem with head gaskets IIRC. Kinda ironic because that used to be Subaru's thing.

Consider keeping the Subaru for reliability. They're boring fairly outdated cars because they're reliable. That's what Toyota was the last several years, although in the last year or two they tried to do some trendy grab the trust fund kiddie bs and it screwed up the reliability on models they tried it on. Shows you that you can have kinda boring and reliable or fun and unreliable.

Does your WRX have a tune? They run retardedly lean to squeeze EPA ratings out and that's basically 80% of what you have to worry about with 08-14s.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:09 PM   #3
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Focus RS has some serious problem with head gaskets IIRC. Kinda ironic because that used to be Subaru's thing.

Consider keeping the Subaru for reliability. They're boring fairly outdated cars because they're reliable. That's what Toyota was the last several years, although in the last year or two they tried to do some trendy grab the trust fund kiddie bs and it screwed up the reliability on models they tried it on. Shows you that you can have kinda boring and reliable or fun and unreliable.

Does your WRX have a tune? They run retardedly lean to squeeze EPA ratings out and that's basically 80% of what you have to worry about with 08-14s.
Yeah, I just read the article about the RS gaskets on Jalopnik a couple of days ago. Very interesting read. It is definitely an issue I need to research more.

I have definitely had good reliability with my Subaru thus far. It's funny you mention Toyotas. My very first car was a Toyota MR2 which I absolutely loved. It was also very reliable.

My WRX does have a tune on it. It just has the Cobb Stage II Map, so no protune or anything like that. I think going to Stage II is one of the main reasons why I still smile every time I drive the WRX.

Thank you for the response.

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Old 11-13-2017, 11:32 PM   #4
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Yeah that's good, a proper tune takes care of the AFR problem so there's added reliability on top of the already fairly reliable WRX.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:34 PM   #5
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Yeah good point. Honestly, I'm kind of leaning towards keeping the WRX and picking up the Cayman. I really like the RS but I'm wondering if too similar to the WRX (Stage II) to justify the cost. The limited edition RS does have that Quaife LSD and may feel more "special" because of the limited number being built. I try to not let things like that influence my decision but I have to admit, there is something cool about the Focus RS with the limited editions bits.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:50 PM   #6
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Not sure what transmission they're using in the RS but their ST transmissions (and even regular boring Focus ones) have also had some problems. Something to consider if they use the same or similar transmission.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:52 AM   #7
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Option 1, hands down.

Cayman is the better car in my opinion and will most likely be my next car. If you decide you don't like the Cayman, you won't take a huge hit selling it.

With option 2, you'll take a bath on both the RS, and the WRX, which probably has plenty of life in it.

Not sure if you have other cars, but there's huge utility value in having two cars over one, especially if you do your own work.
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Old 11-16-2017, 11:32 AM   #8
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Option 3:

Drive wrx, save car payment every month
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:08 PM   #9
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Drive wrx, save car payment every month
To what end then? If he's going to spend it on a car regardless, what's he going to get out of buying say a $150,000 car instead of a $60,000 car? Other than increase insurance and being afraid to drive it anywhere because humans are stupid ********?

If he would save it for something other than a car it would make sense.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:30 PM   #10
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To what end then? If he's going to spend it on a car regardless, what's he going to get out of buying say a $150,000 car instead of a $60,000 car? Other than increase insurance and being afraid to drive it anywhere because humans are stupid ********?

If he would save it for something other than a car it would make sense.
i didn't specify for what, just save the car payment
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:34 PM   #11
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Yeah that was the whole point of my post, if he's going to spend it on a car anyway then it doesn't really matter what level he spends it at. Maybe he doesn't want to save it for something else.
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Old 11-16-2017, 02:48 PM   #12
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Option 1, hands down.

Cayman is the better car in my opinion and will most likely be my next car. If you decide you don't like the Cayman, you won't take a huge hit selling it.

With option 2, you'll take a bath on both the RS, and the WRX, which probably has plenty of life in it.

Not sure if you have other cars, but there's huge utility value in having two cars over one, especially if you do your own work.
Thanks for the response. Right now, I only have the WRX because it fits all of my needs. If I got the RS, it would just replace my WRX as an all-rounder. The Cayman is interesting because it would be my primary daily driver (I need AWD and 4 doors every day) and the WRX would be winter/travel car when I need the extra space or the extra drive wheels. My favorite thing about the Cayman was how different it drives from the WRX which I've gotten used to. I felt that the RS was better than my WRX in a noticeable way but incrementally so. Honestly, I'm not sure if its $40,000 better haha.
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Old 11-16-2017, 02:52 PM   #13
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Drive wrx, save car payment every month
That may be the sensible option. But I have some disposable income every month that could go towards a car payment if it's going to make my drives more fun (which is what some of these cars are all about). I understand the logic of saving for more important things/investments but my budget is set to where I shouldn't be worried about making the payments.
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I felt that the RS was better than my WRX in a noticeable way but incrementally so. Honestly, I'm not sure if its $40,000 better haha.
I see where flyboy is coming from and it's sound advice to never finance a toy.

Once you involve debt, the Cayman is the second worst option, with the worst being the RS.

Financing a roided up $42K Ford hatch that I'd presumably be driving in salt, parking in questionable locations at times, and relying on as my only vehicle would keep me up at night.
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Old 11-16-2017, 06:18 PM   #15
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If that is your price range than go with wrx as your winter beater and the cayman for fair weather.

My Impreza will be my winter beater in like 10 years.
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If that is your price range than go with wrx as your winter beater and the cayman for fair weather.



My Impreza will be my winter beater in like 10 years.


My impreza has been my winter beater since the beginning. Kinda what I bought it for
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Yea same here i just won't call it a winter beater until it looks like a beater lol. I can't call a 5 year old car that looks brand new a beater. And it's my daily driver, once I get a fair weather fun car then it will switxh over.
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Old 11-17-2017, 11:52 AM   #18
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I see where flyboy is coming from and it's sound advice to never finance a toy.

Once you involve debt, the Cayman is the second worst option, with the worst being the RS.

Financing a roided up $42K Ford hatch that I'd presumably be driving in salt, parking in questionable locations at times, and relying on as my only vehicle would keep me up at night.
Fair point. Something worth considering.
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Thank you all for the responses. So far, looks like most people would go with option 1. I'm interested in hearing more thoughts and opinions!

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Old 11-17-2017, 03:07 PM   #20
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My impreza has been my winter beater since the beginning. Kinda what I bought it for
My front bumper cover is barely attached anymore. It has a few clips in the engine bay and the (worst design possible in my opinion) ****ty flimsy clips that go around the headlights and towards the wheel wells holding it on at this point. It half comes off almost every drive. I wish I could just plow through piles of snow like I used to but now it has a high risk of completely ruining my bumper, and a new one costs like $300 unpainted... don't even want to know what they cost painted and shipped.
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