Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Tuesday June 27, 2017
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > Newbies & FAQs

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-11-2008, 01:59 PM   #1
WhiteOnRice
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 168796
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Vehicle:
2005 STi
Aspen White

Default I can't decide between a WRX and STi (or STI for that matter)

I currently own 3 Hondas (89 CRX, 02 Si, 92 HB). I'm in college and they are taking way too much of my time and thought (2 need major bodywork this summer). My plan is to sell all my Hondas and buy a WRX or STi.

Obviously, I want the STi. If I got one, it would be fast/nice enough for me and I'd leave it stock and enjoy the warranty. If I got a WRX, I know I'd find myself dumping all my summer savings into it, trying to make it faster/handle better. The only thing holding me back from deciding on the STi is my fear of insurance. I will be 21 by the time I get the car. No tickets/claims in the last three years.

I have about $450 each month left over after rent/bills. Is an STi within reach of my budget? Can someone post a link to a typical "what are you paying for insurance" thread? I seached but couldn't find one.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
WhiteOnRice is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 01-11-2008, 02:07 PM   #2
twizzstyle
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 18941
Join Date: May 2002
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Kenmore, Washington
Vehicle:
2005 Lotus Elise
Orange

Default

If it were me, I'd get a WRX. Throw a turboback and stage II tune on there and its nearly as fast as an STi, and with just a few minor suspension bits and tires, will handle just as good if not better than a stock STi. And at a fraction of the cost.

Sure, its nice to have all that from the factory and not have to touch it at all, but I still prefer the WRX route.
twizzstyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 02:26 PM   #3
WhiteOnRice
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 168796
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Vehicle:
2005 STi
Aspen White

Default

I'm thinking the WRX is the way to go because I want to get out of having so many cars. I want one reliable car. I wouldn't feel as guilty about putting 20,000 miles a year on a WRX (compared to an STi). If I bought an STi, I'd probably keep my 92 hatch as a DD (back to multiple cars).

How long do modded WRX's last mileage-wise? I'm looking for a quick, fun car to last 5 years (100,000 miles + about 20,000 miles when I buy it) for year round DD with a handfull of SCCA/local track events each year. I'm not into drag at all but to use it as a comparison, a high/mid 13 would be fast enough for me. The skid pad is another story...
WhiteOnRice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 02:43 PM   #4
leecea
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 37359
Join Date: May 2003
Vehicle:
2003 WRX

Default

Buy the WRX but set a budget for mods and stick to it. Don't let it suck up every penny, which is easy to do once the modding bug bites. There is more to life than a car
leecea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 02:45 PM   #5
WhiteOnRice
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 168796
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Vehicle:
2005 STi
Aspen White

Default

Does anyone have a link to an insurance cost thread?
WhiteOnRice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 03:08 PM   #6
nixgame22
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 101219
Join Date: Nov 2005
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: Fort Collins CO
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteOnRice View Post
Does anyone have a link to an insurance cost thread?
Here ya go:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718033
nixgame22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 03:12 PM   #7
WhiteOnRice
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 168796
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Vehicle:
2005 STi
Aspen White

Default

Found one: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=479566

I'm going to call my insurance next time I visit my parents.
WhiteOnRice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 03:48 PM   #8
Overlord2kx
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 138443
Join Date: Jan 2007
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Vehicle:
2005 Impreza WRX
Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by leecea View Post
There is more to life than a car
LIES!!!!!!!!!
Overlord2kx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 03:53 PM   #9
dyrmz134
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 127336
Join Date: Sep 2006
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: NC
Vehicle:
1995 s14.5
mostly red

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by leecea View Post
Buy the WRX but set a budget for mods and stick to it. Don't let it suck up every penny, which is easy to do once the modding bug bites. There is more to life than a car

What?!?!?! since when...........
dyrmz134 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 03:57 PM   #10
gtlegg
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 67837
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Vehicle:
04 tahoe

Default

Quote:
Obviously, I want the STi. If I got one, it would be fast/nice enough for me and I'd leave it stock and enjoy the warranty
or at least you would hope not to mod it. but the bug will eventually bite, and youll want mods.

i personally like the wrx, esp if u get the 06-07 with the 2.5L
gtlegg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 04:05 PM   #11
WhiteOnRice
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 168796
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Vehicle:
2005 STi
Aspen White

Default

I know all about the modding addiction but I can keep myself from buying parts. I do drive a Honda. If I gave into the bug, it would be fast by now.

I test drove a 06 WRX about a month ago. It was a great car overall, but I know I would want a bit more power than that. I failed to notice though, do the 06/07 WRX's have DCCD or is that only STI's? What is the nickname for them? (bugeye then peanut then what?) I heard mooneyes. True?
WhiteOnRice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 04:19 PM   #12
Mkim340518
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 157212
Join Date: Aug 2007
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Philly
Vehicle:
2004 STI Stage 2
Custom black goldflakes

Default

I got a 04 STI as a daily driver and I love my car. But, if I were you; I'd just get the WRX and just add some mods to it once you start building your bank. I can't say that having a stage 2 STI isn't the ***** to drive everyday...but.....I'm always worried about the car since I live in Philly and work out in the burbs where it seems like people cant drive or park without dinging the car next to them. Also, the insurance for my STI is umm.....let say it makes me want to cry every six months, I'm 25 by the way. And the gas, maintenance, parking, Gas, gas, ummm, gassssss. Remember that you're gona have to use PREMIUM and in Philly it cost 3.37 for 9/10th's of a gallon ( anybody know what the hell is up with that anyway? why can't I get a full gallon why just 9/10th's of one????? I WANT MY OTHER 1/10th's....bastards.

Anyway, think about it....gas+insurance+maintenance+mods ( I don't care what you say...your eventually gona mod something...I'll give you 4months before your first mod...LOL) just gas and insurance alone costs me about 350-375 a month with a STI and a 100bucks a month for a college student isn't too great.

Just my two cents...
Mkim340518 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 04:22 PM   #13
Rene2.5RS
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 4574
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Bristol, CT
Vehicle:
2014 Outback 2.5i L
VRP

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteOnRice View Post
I failed to notice though, do the 06/07 WRX's have DCCD or is that only STI's?
Only the STI has DCCD.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteOnRice View Post
What is the nickname for them? (bugeye then peanut then what?) I heard mooneyes. True?
The common nickname for the 06/07 is pig nose.

-Rene
Rene2.5RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 07:44 PM   #14
speedwad
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 167964
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: michigan
Vehicle:
2006 wrx sti
white, ZRX1200 green

Default

i have both right now a 2002wrx w cobb stage 2ap and a few other things and a 2006 sti w cobb stage 2. the wrx is better as a dd for sure and alot cheaper, the sti is .. well like hitting a fly with a sledge hammer. my wife keeps asking me as we drive and her head is bobbing all around if the car is suppose to ride rough like that........ it's awesome
speedwad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 07:50 PM   #15
wrxracer519
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 149890
Join Date: May 2007
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Somewhere in CT
Vehicle:
09 Forester
Green

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteOnRice View Post
I'm thinking the WRX is the way to go because I want to get out of having so many cars. I want one reliable car. I wouldn't feel as guilty about putting 20,000 miles a year on a WRX (compared to an STi). If I bought an STi, I'd probably keep my 92 hatch as a DD (back to multiple cars).

How long do modded WRX's last mileage-wise? I'm looking for a quick, fun car to last 5 years (100,000 miles + about 20,000 miles when I buy it) for year round DD with a handfull of SCCA/local track events each year. I'm not into drag at all but to use it as a comparison, a high/mid 13 would be fast enough for me. The skid pad is another story...
I have an 02 wrx stage2(turboback- catless, up-pipe) and 103,xxx miles and still running strong as when i first got it, you will have no problem with reliabilty. Just mod smartly and you'll be good. I almost got an sti but the insurance was alot more than the rex. Hope this helps and cant wait to see pics of what you decide on
wrxracer519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 07:55 PM   #16
nhat
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 140163
Join Date: Feb 2007
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: 3MI Racing
Vehicle:
03 STi
hellaflunctional

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by twizzstyle View Post
If it were me, I'd get a WRX. Throw a turboback and stage II tune on there and its nearly as fast as an STi, and with just a few minor suspension bits and tires, will handle just as good if not better than a stock STi. And at a fraction of the cost.

Sure, its nice to have all that from the factory and not have to touch it at all, but I still prefer the WRX route.
don't forget brakes, stronger 6spd, bigger turbo, and lighter wheels on the sti that the wrx doesn't have.

unless you know for sure that you can drive a modded (bigger turbo) wrx without blowing up 3rd gear, stick to the stock turbo...or start a fund for better gears (new RA gears from rallispec, mfactory gears, or PPGs).

figure out what you want to spend on a car and go from there. insurance shouldn't be any different between the wrx and sti. i've seen 04/05 sti's going for $20-23k with low miles. if you plan on keeping the car stock, you'll probably be happier in the sti. if you plan on modding, both should be considered
nhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 09:52 PM   #17
mannac
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 161038
Join Date: Oct 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Milwaukee
Vehicle:
2005 LGT
'72 Datsun 240Z

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteOnRice View Post
What is the nickname for them? (bugeye then peanut then what?) I heard mooneyes. True?
02-03 = bugeye
04-05 = blobeye, never heard of peanut but it works
06-07 = hawkeye/pig nose
mannac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2008, 01:59 AM   #18
DemonPossessedNinja
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 116610
Join Date: Jun 2006
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: san jose
Vehicle:
2005 wrx vf-34
psm

Default

04-05 I heard sometimes are called cross eyed too. I love my cross-eyed rex
DemonPossessedNinja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2008, 06:40 AM   #19
nhmtns
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 94283
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Mt. Washington Valley, NH
Vehicle:
'05 OBXT
Min bil är svart

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteOnRice View Post
If I got one, it would be fast/nice enough for me and I'd leave it stock and enjoy the warranty.
It sounds like you are kind of "into" cars, considering you have 3 Hondas. I doubt you'd be able to just leave an STI stock and not want to do some modding, even if it's a massive jump up from what you are currently driving. No matter what most people drive, they usually get used to the performance and eventually want to go faster.
nhmtns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2008, 09:27 AM   #20
Button
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 20620
Join Date: Jun 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Canton, GA
Vehicle:
2006 Outback 2.5 i
Willow Green Opal

Default

WhiteOnRice:

Why don't you graduate college, establish your career then get your car when you'll be able to afford it? Why must everyone have it now?

Regards,
~Button
Button is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2008, 09:39 AM   #21
CynicX
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 48199
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Maryland
Vehicle:
06 WRX
WRB

Default

I'd sell 2 of the least friendly daily driver Honda's then drive the other until you graduate college. Well thats probably the right thing to do I dunno if I'd actually do that...

Since it seems you enjoy and take pride in modding cars I seriously doubt you'd leave the STI stock. It mods just as easily as the WRX while maintaining the stock vs stock performance gap, MOST of the parts are interchangeable like the exhaust, turbos, intercoolers etc etc so they cost the same to modify...

So from a cost perspective go with the STI IF you can manage not to modify it, doubtful. Or get a WRX and modify it....

Either case financially they are both bad decisions in this point in your life....my opinion of course....you could be loaded ($$$) and money doesnt matter....
CynicX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2008, 09:58 AM   #22
nhmtns
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 94283
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Mt. Washington Valley, NH
Vehicle:
'05 OBXT
Min bil är svart

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Button View Post
Why don't you graduate college, establish your career then get your car when you'll be able to afford it? Why must everyone have it now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by CynicX View Post
I'd sell 2 of the least friendly daily driver Honda's then drive the other until you graduate college.
OP: Maybe not what you want to hear, but probably the best advice. Spending every last dime on a car with nothing left over for emergency expenses and unexpected bills is never a good idea, especially when you're just a college student.
nhmtns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2008, 11:18 AM   #23
sixtoo
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 67603
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: South Pasadena, CA
Vehicle:
2017 Forester
Silver

Default

Just get the STi and race the hell out of your 92 civic. Don't mod the STi because it already has everything you'd spend money on by dropping it into a WRX (more power, flashy brakes, excellent drivetrain, higher redline, red gauge cluster, forged wheels, good tires, cool interior, diffuser/wing nonsense, water spray, HIDs, ect....)
sixtoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2008, 12:39 PM   #24
WhiteOnRice
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 168796
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Vehicle:
2005 STi
Aspen White

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixtoo View Post
Don't mod the STi because it already has everything you'd spend money on by dropping it into a WRX (more power, flashy brakes, excellent drivetrain, higher redline, red gauge cluster, forged wheels, good tires, cool interior, diffuser/wing nonsense, water spray, HIDs, ect....)
This is why I still want the STi; it has all the stuff I would want with a WRX. Going from a WRX to an STi isn't a matter of extra power and swaybars but everything mentioned above by sixtoo and DCCD (I'm assuming LSD in front and rear also). I know what I want and I know the STi is expensive for a college student. Exactly why I would leave it stock and retain what's left of the warranty. Really the only thing holding me back from the STi is the insurance. So after I call the insurance company, I'll let you guys know.

I'm not getting out of school until I'm 26, and I can't wait that long. I think I could handle owning an STi. I have a decent serving job now and I'm only working 2 days a week. I could easily bump that up if I needed to. It's not like I can't resist buying parts. My bank account is perfectly fine. I just can't drive Hondas anymore (or at least FF and I've always wanted an STi)!!
WhiteOnRice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2008, 01:14 PM   #25
Suber Krout
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 147418
Join Date: Apr 2007
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Reseda, California
Vehicle:
2006 WRX Limited SW
Crystal Gray

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by leecea View Post
There is more to life than a car

There is more quality to life in great car!
Suber Krout is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can't decide between 18g or 16g Seanco Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain (EJ Series Factory 2.0L Turbo) 5 03-26-2009 09:00 AM
arrghghh!!! can't decide between X800 and 6800GT nhluhr Off-Topic 40 11-09-2004 12:03 PM
You can't decide between a Saab or Suby GQ General Community 18 12-18-2003 08:17 PM
can't decide between a perrin and a pde uppipe showcasewrx Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain (EJ Series Factory 2.0L Turbo) 17 11-19-2003 05:52 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2017 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2017, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.