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Old 01-23-2008, 05:23 PM   #1
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Default Speakers not working in cold weather

I have found that in the mornings when its really cold out (under 30 degrees) the woofers on my components do not work. The tweeters work, and the sub works, but the woofers do not. Eventually, as the car warms up after 15-20 minutes of driving each speaker will crackle and then begin to work. The speakers are Diamond Audio Hex components, crossovers are in the kick panels, and the speakers are in the normal front door locations.

Has anyone had this happen before? How would you fix this?

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Edit: I also wanted to add that the amplifier is in the trunk, attached to the back of the seats.
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:50 AM   #2
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This used to happen to me in my jeep... I'm pretty sure the woofers just operate best when they're not frozen.
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:09 AM   #3
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Damn that blows my hope for superconductivity of speaker magnets at super freezing temps to get SUPER BASS.
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:28 AM   #4
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It's a long shot, but it sounds like something is lose, something that contracts (being tempature dependant) and loses contact... I've seen this on circuit boards in the past, but it wasn't so much from a contact but from an IC chip... I would hit it with freeze spray and it would work, as soon as it warmed up it would fail... I know it's the oppisite of your problem, but it was the inverse of it.

I would look at the component crossovers really close, at the solder joints, if you can. To see if there are any "rings" around the various components wires at the solder joint... these "rings" I speak of, would indicate bad solder...
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:59 AM   #5
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Could also be a pinched wire... Currently chasing this on my own car.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:22 PM   #6
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I had a similar problem with my passenger side door. Especially when it was cold out, my speaker somewhere in the wiring would ground itself out on the body and I'd lose all sound except for my powered sub.
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:37 PM   #7
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if they are the original Diamond Audio speakers from 2002-2004 era, its actually the cone material. Diamond actually had a problem with the early speakers, woofers & tweeters literally shattering in to pieces in extreme cold climates. They had to redesign the cone materials...

I would vote for a broken, stressed or pinched wire... not making contact when it shrinks (cold) & then making contact when warmed up. Very likely in the crimp connector on the speaker or could be on the crossovers too... which reminds me of another issue Diamond Had back in the day... capacitors breaking/loosing connection on the circuit board in the crossover cases.

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Old 01-25-2008, 08:39 AM   #8
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I would vote for a broken, stressed or pinched wire... not making contact when it shrinks (cold) & then making contact when warmed up. Very likely in the crimp connector on the speaker or could be on the crossovers too... which reminds me of another issue Diamond Had back in the day... capacitors breaking/loosing connection on the circuit board in the crossover cases.
Wow, I was just shooting at the moon with my reply, but you seemingly are backing up my statements....

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It's a long shot, but it sounds like something is lose, something that contracts (being tempature dependant) and loses contact... I've seen this on circuit boards in the past, but it wasn't so much from a contact but from an IC chip... I would hit it with freeze spray and it would work, as soon as it warmed up it would fail... I know it's the oppisite of your problem, but it was the inverse of it.

I would look at the component crossovers really close, at the solder joints, if you can. To see if there are any "rings" around the various components wires at the solder joint... these "rings" I speak of, would indicate bad solder...
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Could also be the speaker is literally frozen...water pours inside the door when it rains, usually coating the back of the speaker. If it went below freezing before drying off, it could freeze the coil in the gap until the current from playing music thawed it and it broke free.

Just a thought, and it's only possible if it was raining the day before or that night.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:34 AM   #10
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I have had subs freeze before, just from the interior humidity of the car freezing them solid. you could try and press them down in the box and feel that it was frozen. my recommendation is start warming your car up in cold weather for a few minutes (you should try to do this anyways) before you leave with the radio off (not good for the driver to try and move the speaker while its frozen) and then once the car is warm, then give it a try.
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:19 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys, sounds like I'm pretty much going to have to check everything from the crossovers to the speakers. The problem with this is that I'm probably going to wait until its warm outside to do this, so I hope it will be obvious LOL.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:00 PM   #12
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The speaker is frozen...... I had the same issue. Checked everything then i opened the door up and the woofer would not move. Wait till the morning when it is not working open the door up and check the speaker. It will save you a lot of time checking things. I took the speaker inside and let it warm up and dry out it solved the problem for the last few days. Good luck
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:48 PM   #13
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ask a friend, work, local business for a favor. Park the car, with doors open, batt disconnected overnight. Warm/above abient temps is the goal...

see what happens.

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