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Old 02-04-2002, 11:24 PM   #1
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Exclamation Wax, cleaner or this??


I'm having some trouble deciding what to use on my yellow rex. The paint is taking a real beating where I live since i don't have a garage or carport and the trains go right by my place at all hours of day and night, also, the fallout and air pollution are pretty bad (welcome to Atlanta). Anyway, back when I had my supercharged white Miata, I was faced with horrible soot build up from the over-rich mixture and oil burning of my car. On a white car it was really a problem. I tried all kinds of products including Meguiar's cleaner/wax and even bug & tar remover. Nothing worked until I tried a product called "Premium Auto Polish & Protectant" from Driven Performance 1-800-835-6149. It is a thick liquid/paste. It goes on pretty easily (on a clean car) and buffs to a great shine while applying on one section at the time. This stuff was nothing short of miraculous. It removed all the soot and left the car in beautiful shape. You can tell immediately where you've used it by touch alone. After a section has been treated, it becomes very slick, not oily, but very slick to the touch. When you rub the car with the polishing rag and you hit an unpolished spot it is like hitting the brakes!
Anyway, so why am I asking questions? Well, when you use this stuff you can see the color of the car come off on the applicator. A friend told me that it was removing the clear coat and I needed to apply a *real* wax to the car to protect the paint job. Also, the "slickness" and shine do not last forever. I actually don't know how long it lasts since I've nevber actually kept track but I suspect it is not more than a few weeks, if that long.
I did a search about wax and read a lot of stuff. lots of praise of Meguiar's products and also Zaino's products. I must admit that I have not used the Meguiar's #20 or any of the Zaino products, but I sure would like to find a good way to beautify and *protect* my car finish from the hostile environment. Has anybody out there had any experience with the "Premium Auto Polish & Protectant" from Driven Performance? If so, what do the cognoscenty say about it? I'm about to run out of the last of that product and i sure would like to know which way to go next. Also, I sure would appreciate any leads on a professional in my area who will do a good job of cleaning my car and applying a good paste type, carnouba wax.


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Old 02-04-2002, 11:41 PM   #2
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Well, I'm one of the big Zaino-holics, so I'm going to recommend Zaino.

I've not heard of the polish you are using, but if it got all the soot off, it sounds like it's got some abrasives in there. That's fine to use a polish if your paint was really damaged, but you certainly don't want to use it on a regular basis. Yes, it seems like it's your clearcoat that's coming off.

One of the reason's I love Zaino is that it's totally non-abrasive. It will not remove any clearcoat or paint. Their Z-5 product can even be used to reduce light swirling by filling in the swirls! It is a polymer based product, so it lasts much longer and protects better than carnauba based products.

To learn a lot more about car detailing, check out: http://www.autopia-carport.com/ForumIndex.htm

Three products are very popular there: Zaino, Klasse, and Blackfire. You can't go wrong with any of these!

Zaino is at: http://www.zainobros.com/

Good luck!

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Old 02-05-2002, 01:37 AM   #3
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DONOT use CLEANER WAX it is not good for your paint.... Its gonna strip some of your paint...NOT clearcoat safe!

Anywayz i am a 3M guy... their car stuff is great i use the 3M car wash shampoo and the 3m paste wax... VERY GOOD STUFF!..
and its clearcoat safe

btw i only read a couple of sentences on your long post
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Old 02-05-2002, 11:15 AM   #4
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I would clean with dawn dishwashing liquid first this only a 1x clean not for use on regular basis will strip wax, then use clay mothers etc, then use either zaino, klasse or blackfire they are polymers that last much longer then wax, its a lot of work first time but good 4 your paint. For more info check out http://autopia-carport.com look at the forums tons of info. good luck
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Old 02-05-2002, 04:58 PM   #5
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what is the purpose of cleaner wax? to get rid of some the dirt and grime of the surface?
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