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Old 02-19-2008, 08:03 PM   #1
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NOTE: Updated photos on post #23

NOTE #2: First Race Report and Photos on post #28

For some reason, I originally posted this in teh OT, despite not being much of an otter. So I figured the motorsports peeps might enjoy it more.

I sold my little 1972 Fiat 128 Sedan last fall, which has served me well for a couple years of track duty. While it was a tad slower than the STi I tracked before, it ran a dozen events on the same brake pads, same set of Kumho V710 tires, and got me back to tinkering with cars, instead of just little motorcycles. Quick pick of the 128 for reference:



Late fall, I decided to sell the Fiat as I had been bitten by the Formula Vee bug. After a bit of searching, I came across a 1964 Autodynamics FV from the South/Central California area, that was being run in VARA. It was a mid-pack car, and needed a good freshening up. It came with some spare parts (engine parts, complete trans, extra set of wheels) and a 10' enclosed trailer.

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After a couple weekends of plotting and scheming, I had my list of "to-do" items, and began work. It didn't take long to get it stripped down to the frame. I did a bit of a redesign in the rear suspension, and added a bit of gusseting to the chassis. It then got a fresh coat of silver paint:





A few weeks later, most of the "big" components found their way back into the chassis, thanks to a couple of four-day weekends over Christmas and New Years:





Another couple weekends allowed me to flush the car out, including most accessory items like steering, seats, fuel cell, harnesses etc.:





I also put together a proper dash panel, including a nice little home-built (thanks Sean) digital tach:



...to be continued...
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:03 PM   #2
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And, just this Saturday, I managed to run it up and down the road for the first time, sans body work. After that, I spent a slow couple of hours getting the freshly painted body panels on the car, and sure enough, it starts to look like a car:











I'm going for a WW2 Fighter plane look, and with KC's helps (www.rallydecals.com) I'll soon have a nice graphics package to complete the look. I'll update this thread with more pics as the car gets more complete.

Hope you like it,

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Old 02-19-2008, 08:12 PM   #3
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Can I see a better picture of the rear suspension? Is the rear suspention linkage the same as in a VW Bettle or is it different?

I'm just trying to picture the way the camber changes as it goes through the turns.

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Old 02-19-2008, 08:45 PM   #4
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Chris,

VERY cool car! Great attention to detail. How much does the FV weigh dry?

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Old 02-19-2008, 09:09 PM   #5
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Congrats on the FMod!

They are AWESOME cars! I Auto X'ed an FMod for a about half a season last year, WHAT A BLAST!

It's basically a VW bug on a tube chassis, so yes, bug rear suspension.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:10 PM   #6
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Matt: Modern FV minimum weight is 1,025 with driver. Monoposto (for vintage cars) rules actually set the minimum weight at 825 for just the car.

El Capitan: FV's use the swing axle bug trans, so you get lots of camber change. Most older FVs (like mine) use trailing arms coming off the frame about where the driver sits, and individual shocks. With bump, i'll be getting a bit of toe-out. Modern Vees run a zero-roll rear suspension using a mono-shock, and top cars have gone for a leading arm connection, which pivots just behind the back of the trans. This setup has less toe change.

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Old 02-19-2008, 09:58 PM   #7
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I've been pouring over all my stuff from the last few vintage events I've shot. I know I have a few pictures of an Autodynamics FV. The driver is probably 275lbs too. It looks like he's driving a toy car. I'll find them at some point and send them to you.

The car looks great as I said in the other thread. The theme is perfect for the body style of the car.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:31 AM   #8
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Love it.

GL racing this season.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:53 AM   #9
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Love it as well!

You do some good work.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:56 AM   #10
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Body work looks gorgeous...very nice job.
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:08 AM   #11
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Nice Chris
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:52 AM   #12
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Schweet!
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Funny that this thread popped up just as I was lusting after a Solo-V advertised in SportsCar. I assume the entire car/trailer package weighs so little that my family minivan could tow it and there are some fun looking hill-climbs in PA.

But then I was thinking, if a beginner buys a Solo-V, how would they learn to drive it? I guess you can't go to HPDEs or track days with a single seater and autox will not be much preperation for high-speed time trials.

Plus, they look so flimsy that hill-climbing in one sounds like a deathwish.

Hmm... what to do?

Sorry if this was a hijack... the pictures of your car are eating into my brain and making me want one
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:37 PM   #14
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Funny that this thread popped up just as I was lusting after a Solo-V advertised in SportsCar. I assume the entire car/trailer package weighs so little that my family minivan could tow it and there are some fun looking hill-climbs in PA.

But then I was thinking, if a beginner buys a Solo-V, how would they learn to drive it? I guess you can't go to HPDEs or track days with a single seater and autox will not be much preperation for high-speed time trials.

Plus, they look so flimsy that hill-climbing in one sounds like a deathwish.

Hmm... what to do?

Sorry if this was a hijack... the pictures of your car are eating into my brain and making me want one
I tow my Formula Continental with a minivan no problem and get 20MPG. A FV could be even easier since the trailer could be smaller.

Seat time in an open wheel is tough to find. Depending on the track many have 'test days' before a road racing event and all you need is a novice license (just takes an application) to go out at some of the events.

In the NE you can check out FRCCA. They have a lot of info for open wheel up there. http://www.frcca.com/
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:42 PM   #15
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Cool! I totally missed this. Awesome project. I bet its gonna be a hoot on track. Couple of the books I've been reading recently have some good content on these (Puhn,etc)

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Awesome thread!
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:25 AM   #17
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Chris:

Nice work. Reminds me I have a few carbs, harness, and points to send out to you.

Just relooked at the pics - no Ron Chuck shock mounts on the front? Is that an Optima redtop? Where's the link to that other battery? I'll send ya my spare.

You may want to box in the shifter linkage too.

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Old 02-22-2008, 02:53 AM   #18
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Looks really good. Tucking the tailpipe in makes it look really slick. I like the Gulf-colors-fighter-plane look you have going
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You may want to box in the shifter linkage too.
If you do that make sure it has some height so it doesn't end up as a big pointy thing that can penetrate the sides of other cars between the framework. Just happened a month or so ago to someone who got lucky and only ended up with the nastiest bruise I've seen in a while
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Looks great already, and looks like a killer project
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Old 02-22-2008, 11:17 AM   #22
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I've got two different "cages" for the rear trans linkage already, one I prefer because it is a nice curved shape. It is already on the car in fact. Along with a few more small parts since the photos were taken.

Craigs: Nope, no Ron Chuck front mounts, per Monoposto rules:

4. Mounting the shock absorbers behind the vertical shock absorber mounting fixture is not permitted.


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Old 03-01-2008, 09:52 PM   #23
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Got a few more bits on the car, including most of the graphics package. It also made it around the block a few times. I have a relatively short "to-do" list left, and hope to be on track at Thunderhill at the end of the month.

Pics:















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Old 03-02-2008, 09:07 AM   #24
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nice job chris.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:51 AM   #25
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looks absolutely fantastic
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