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Old 08-18-2008, 03:43 PM   #1
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Old 08-18-2008, 03:53 PM   #2
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seems really low for a dynojet? and wheres the tq? get meth, more boost and wake that sucker up!
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Old 08-18-2008, 03:56 PM   #3
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something is wrong there...........
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Old 08-18-2008, 04:06 PM   #4
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and wheres the tq?!
Huh? Def only makes 320 on 93 here with a MUCH larger turbo.

You guys gotta remember he's only got 2.0 liters.
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Old 08-18-2008, 04:11 PM   #5
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I can understand the TQ figures being a bit off but that 2.0 with that turbo size should hold better towards redline, no?
Numbers do seem low for a dynojet, what do base STi's dyno there?
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:51 PM   #6
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Yeah I was expecting to see some numbers to make me want to get retuned with my JDM 2.0 but I'm hitting 380whp on 93 pump with a Green and it came in a bit sooner to from what I can remember? A bit higher to my 8500 redline and done on a Dynojet.
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:58 PM   #7
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Huh? Def only makes 320 on 93 here with a MUCH larger turbo.

You guys gotta remember he's only got 2.0 liters.
The 320 whp I made was on 18 psi (16 psi @ peak power actually) and on a little VF36. I loved that sucker... spooled quick... decent topend. It ran 12.0 @ 115 pretty easily.

The link you put up was my old pump gas tune, about 4 years after the 320 whp tune. I made 433 whp on pump in the link with a built 2 liter and a GT3582R. I have since had things cleaned up and made 461 whp on 93 and made a crappy pass that still managed 11.9 @ 120.

That said, I don't honestly know much about these Blouch turbo's, regardless though, 350+ whp is nothing to sneeze at. Seems like 18G/20G power.

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Old 08-18-2008, 08:14 PM   #8
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That said, I don't honestly know much about these Blouch turbo's, regardless though, 350+ whp is nothing to sneeze at. Seems like 18G/20G power.

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Dom 3 is a GT30R stuffed into a mitsu housing basically..thats why it would be a big problem to be compared to 18g power levels haha
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:26 PM   #9
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Meh, forget the others - 350whp is a great result. That's 265kw over here, and that is a decent effort for a 2L.

Now take the car to the strip and see what she can run
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:29 PM   #10
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Dom 3 is a GT30R stuffed into a mitsu housing basically..thats why it would be a big problem to be compared to 18g power levels haha
You do have a point there.

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Old 08-18-2008, 08:30 PM   #11
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Dom 3 is a GT30R stuffed into a mitsu housing basically..thats why it would be a big problem to be compared to 18g power levels haha
In my experience whenever you stuff anything into something it doesn't belong in, there are trade offs. To expect 30R power from well... something thats really not a 30R... well...

I should have been a little more careful with my words. An 18G on race would get those numbers and a little more. A 20G would come damn close on pump gas...

Anyway... He may just need to turn the boost up abit. 21 psi on a 2 liter is like 16 psi on 2.5... roughly.

That said, to approach the same flow of our 2.5 liter brothers, we 2 liter guys have to run more boost at any given power level. I'd venture to say he'd pick up a good bit of power turning the boost up and tuning it for, say 24-26 psi. Me for example, I am running 27 psi on pump gas... pretty much as a daily driver.

Then with the race gas tune shoot for 32-35 psi, if the turbo will push that... and assuming the tune would be safe.

21 psi on a 2 liter EJ running a GT30 sized turbo is not a lot of boost. Now 21 psi on a 2 liter running a VF turbo... thats a different story.

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Old 08-18-2008, 08:40 PM   #12
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In my experience whenever you stuff anything into something it doesn't belong in, there are trade offs. To expect 30R power from well... something thats really not a 30R... well...

21 psi on a 2 liter EJ running a GT30 sized turbo is not a lot of boost. Now 21 psi on a 2 liter running a VF turbo... thats a different story.

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True. It is true I haven't seen a lot of Dom III's on 2.0's..usually they hit 400whp on dynojets with those kind of supporting mods no problem on similar (give or take ~2 psi) boost on pump on the 2.5's
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:16 PM   #13
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Yeah, turn the boost up and see what you get.
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:41 PM   #14
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I'd be interested to see how agressive scott got with the cam timing.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:17 PM   #15
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I'm not sure what a stock STi dynos on their dynojet, but I think it's comparable to the other dynojets. The numbers are a little low for what I was expecting after looking at the 257 numbers, and from watching dug's progress on his past sz49 tunes. I think the main thing holding it back was the fmic, with a core that was cooling better we could have ran some more boost. Meth would definitely wake it up, I wish we could have made some race gas runs just to see what it would do.

Micah, I know he had said the cam timing was about at it's limit, but I don't know for sure what those numbers were. 45 degrees comes to mind, but I don't know if that's correct or not.

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Old 08-19-2008, 11:16 PM   #16
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If you just want a dyno figure that makes you happy, go to one of the million happy dynos that reads high and get the opperator to "make some adjustments" like they have for numerous other NASIOC members
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:29 PM   #17
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Did i miss you mention if this a 2.4 or 3 inlet?
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:59 AM   #18
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It is a 2.4" inlet. I'm completely happy with the car, with the quick response and broad power higher in the rpms it makes the car a blast to drive. I was just expecting to see higher dyno numbers. But if I just wanted high dyno numbers, I would have kept my supra.
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Old 08-20-2008, 01:49 AM   #19
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Yeah, to me that seems about right, on a 2L ej20 with a 2.4 inlet with no meth on 93. Seems like a fun car, enjoy it!
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:09 AM   #20
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The only thing I am curious about is the tq drop at 6500rpm. If it didn't drop off as much, the car would be making close to 400whp. I would guess the tuner left some on the table for safety & reliability. Does the boost taper off? What AVCS advance is it running in that range (if any)?

Otherwise, you could probably get some more power the 6500+ range with a more aggressive cam.

Either way, nice setup!
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:15 PM   #21
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I know it is a safe tune, but there probably wasn't a whole lot left in it as far as that goes. The boost does taper, but I can't remember what to, maybe in the 17-18 range. As far as the cam timing up top, I don't know.
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:47 PM   #22
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Wow, I really take torque for granted. I admire 2.0 liters. Haven't driven one in forever.
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Micah, I know he had said the cam timing was about at it's limit, but I don't know for sure what those numbers were. 45 degrees comes to mind, but I don't know if that's correct or not.
I'm not picking at the tune...just curious what its at...just wanted to clarify
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