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Old 08-19-2008, 10:16 AM   #1
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Hola, this is the last graph from my 05 STI.

Stock turbo, stock internals.
Only bolt-ons....such as:
New TMIC, arc box, new wastegate accuator, DC headers, up, and down pipe, JIC bullit exhaust, utec, samco hose kit, upgraded stock injectors, greddy boost controler, and LOVE from Pure Tuning in Toledo, OH.



Wondering how this compares to other suby stock turbos???
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:25 AM   #2
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damn thats very impressive ,nice torque number as well. How is drivability?

What injectors and A/F ratios are you running?

Nice to see another JIC user, what system? they sound soo sweet!!
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:29 AM   #3
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Wondering how this compares to other suby stock turbos???

you cant compare dyno numbers, its just a tuning device
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:34 AM   #4
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426lb of torque?? At the wheels???
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:36 AM   #5
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The car drives great. I mainly trailer it...just in case...but do drive it on weekends. The roads around me SUCK, so its not a great daily.
The JIC bullet sounds great...maybe a little too loud, which I like
I cant remember all the other numbers off the top of my head, but will post later. Sent in the stock injectors to be changed up to 850.
Plan is to ditch the utec and put in the new AEM and really push the turbo till it blows...then do a green
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:37 AM   #6
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426lb of torque?? At the wheels???
Yeah, on a new awd mustang dyno.

And downsti, I agree...but you cant tell me people dont use, compare, and advertise numbers. As a very general number, wonder what others came up with.

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Old 08-19-2008, 12:49 PM   #7
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I have tuned several similar setups, but with FMIC and stock headers, and got 315-320 WHP, 350ish WTQ using my road dyno software. That torque number seems way off to me.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:17 PM   #8
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nice numbers!
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:18 PM   #9
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Nice #'s on the whp!
This wasnt a one run, one time dyno session. I have had these numbers, or close to, for a while now.
I am interested to see what will happen when I put the FMIC on?
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:22 PM   #10
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how does it drive? Looks like the size of the VF39 shows with the torque dropping fast after 3800
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:40 PM   #11
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It drives fine...obviously the power comes on fast then drops off fast, but its pretty smooth once you get used to it. I was at Mid Ohio last weekend, I will post some vids later. My corner exit speed is sick, but power would peak before the end of the long straight.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:49 PM   #12
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you'll blow your engine before you blow that turbo...it's pretty damn reliable, trust me
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HP seems right on, torque is whacked though, I am suspicious.....
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Old 08-20-2008, 02:21 AM   #14
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As a very general number, wonder what others came up with.
Nice numbers.

I have 290.
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Old 08-20-2008, 02:21 PM   #15
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HP seems right on, torque is whacked though, I am suspicious.....
The right parts help...but its all about the tune. And nobody does it better than Pure Tuning!
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426 ft/lb from a VF39? Lolz What does the car trap in the 1/4 mile?
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The graph says engine hp and tq. Power at the flywheel, not the wheels.

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but its all about the tune. And nobody does it better than Pure Tuning!
^^Thats heresay, P&L produces more tq on average than most.
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The graph says engine hp and tq. Power at the flywheel, not the wheels.



^^Thats heresay, P&L produces more tq on average than most.
Their dyno?


What kind of dyno does P-tuning use?
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:25 PM   #19
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my 39 made 389wtq on 100oct/93 mix. @ P&L.
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The right parts help...but its all about the tune. And nobody does it better than Pure Tuning!
the right parts? its just your average bolt on sti? doesnt seem to have anything to crazy done to it. making 426 wtq is impossible on a vf39. go to a different dyno and see what happens. you said it was new, maybe they havent adjusted it or whatever yet. their tq reading has to be off (way off by about 100). it would be hard to make to that at the crank with meth on a vf39 better yet at the wheels without meth.
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426 ft/lb from a VF39? Lolz What does the car trap in the 1/4 mile?
although getting a 1/4 mile trap speed would be nice the 430 ft*lbs wouldnt even be used in the 1/4 mile. The rpm should never be that low.
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The graph says engine hp and tq. Power at the flywheel, not the wheels.



^^Thats heresay, P&L produces more tq on average than most.
Oh they do???

I got 372WHP/341WTQ on my GT3076 @20psi with Ron's AXIS Stage3 SB with every last supporting mod you can think of.

To say that this was made on Mustang Dyno is BS the WHP is spot on the WTQ is that of a WRC Rally car that pops once month.

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Their dyno?


What kind of dyno does P-tuning use?
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Yeah, on a new awd mustang dyno.

And downsti, I agree...but you cant tell me people dont use, compare, and advertise numbers. As a very general number, wonder what others came up with.
That's P & L Motorsports and they have an older DynoJet.

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Thats heresay, P&L produces more tq on average than most.
Perhaps I was misunderstood. I meant per vehicle, not more than 400+tq on a 39. I've seen a lot of dyno charts for 39'd 2.0's and P&L consistently matches tq and hp (275/275) rather than 300/235 that you see more often. Torque curves look a lot better on 2.5's but not 400+ good.
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