Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Friday December 15, 2017
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > Proven Power Bragging

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-29-2008, 11:08 AM   #1
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

2002 Bugeye

ENGINE:
USDM 2.5L Shortblock engine
OEM 2002 2.0L Heads
Cosworth headgaskets 1.0mm
Crower 272 cams (.406 lift)
Brian Crower titanium valve springs/retainers
Blouch Dominator 3.5R Stock location Turbo (W/G set @ 18psi)
Blouch Racing ported and polished turbine housing
Custom stainless braided turbo oil feed line
NGK BKR7E (#6097) Copper core V-power spark plugs (.028 gap)
Tumble Generator Valve Delete
1100cc Deatschwerks injectors
SPT timing belt
USDM STI oil pump
USDM STI water pump
SPT poly motor mounts
SPT pitchstop
SlowBoy Racing 3"- 4 ply Silicone intake hose
Max-Redline Front mount Intercooler (31"x12"x4")
Extreme PSI 4 ply Silicone couplers
Clampco Stainless steel T-clamps
HKS SSQ BOV (oem flange)
Snow Performance Water/Methanol Injection System (50/50 mix)
Walbro 255lph fuel pump w/harness
Megan Racing Coolant overflow tank
Mobil 1 10w30 synthetic motor oil
ENGINE MANAGEMENT:
AMS Tuned (by Chris)
AEM EMS w/UEGO #30-1810U
AEM Intake Air Temp sensor kit (IAT)
GM 3 Bar MAP sensor (MAP)
GM EBCS
Perrin 83mm BigMaf w/ filter
EXHAUST:
Tunabe Concept Blue Medallion G 3" turbo back exhaust (catless)
AMR 4-1 polished header and up-pipe
Heat wrap for header and up-pipe
Poly muffler hangers
TRANSMISSION:
PPG 1-4 gearset (1-2 straight cut / 3-4 helical cut)
SPT 2,340 lbf pressure plate
SPT 232mmx5mm triple plate ceramic disk
Indigo 9 lb flywheel
SPT poly transmission mount
Mobil 1 75W90 gear oil (transmission/front differential)
SUSPENSION:
Progressive Springs 1.5"f / 1.8"r
KYB AGX adjustable struts
Koesi 18" bronze w/polished lip 5 spoke rims (Summer)
BFG KDWII 225/40ZR18 (Summer)
Prodrive 17" gold 6 spoke rims (Winter)
Dunlop Wintersport M3 225/45-17 (Winter)
Mobil 80W90 hypoid gear oil (rear differential)
EXTERIOR:
OEM Aspen White exterior paint
Body color sideskirts
OEM RS fog lamp covers
All emblems removed
INTERIOR:
Autometer gauge bezel
Autometer Sport Comp boost gauge (vac30-0-30psi)
Autometer Sport Comp A/F gauge (narrow band...Yeah, I know)
LED for meth/water injection
NGK AFX wideband AFR Display (dash mount)
HKS Turbo Timer w/harness (recessed into dash)
Special Thanks to:
"08WRX" (general help and automotive know how)
AMS Performance
Don Miller Subaru







Blouch VF22 next to Blouch Dominator 3.5R


The pics are from a couple of months ago and the intercooler is a "little" bigger now


I finaly made it to the dyno at AMS two weeks ago and made decent power but I think something is still holding it back significantly.

I made:
386 awhp/ 358 awtq
93 oct
NO meth
21psi by 4300 rpm

When we tried to do a 110 sunoco map, power would climb hard but, as soon as it would pass 23-24 psi hp would drop. I think the IWG is pulling open and loosing boost? Also now I think I may have blown the seal into the compressor and now I am leaking oil into the intercooler piping. It looks like I am going to be putting a EWG and maybe a new header. Also I am going to be re-routing my pcv system into a catch can.

Not bad for now, and I am going to the track in a few weeks to see what it can do.




Matt
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

Last edited by 0225wrx; 10-21-2008 at 10:35 AM. Reason: PICS
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 08-29-2008, 11:13 AM   #2
4ST-AIR
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 148681
Join Date: May 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: WI
Vehicle:
TBD Looking for STI
Back in the Game!

Default

Very Nice setup Matt. Ive been waiting a long time to see you get tuned.

Now get that EWG in and lets see the Q16 in her!!!

Let me know when your heading to the track. I need to get my engine mounts done then I 'll join you.

Dan
4ST-AIR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 11:19 AM   #3
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4ST-AIR View Post
Very Nice setup Matt. Ive been waiting a long time to see you get tuned.

Now get that EWG in and lets see the Q16 in her!!!

Dab
I am putting a new header in with a soilid uppipe (without the flex) in and adding the EWG. I have been throwing around the Idea of just going to a custom rotated setup and a "slightly" larger turbo (that is still in the works though). But, in the meantime Im just gonna try this and drive it.

Matt
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 12:02 PM   #4
4ST-AIR
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 148681
Join Date: May 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: WI
Vehicle:
TBD Looking for STI
Back in the Game!

Default

Get some enjoyment out of all that work first . Once you have that ALKY tune it will be a beast.
4ST-AIR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 12:40 PM   #5
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

I think I am going to the track on Sept 20th??

I guess I will see what happens then.

Matt
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 01:28 PM   #6
kellygnsd
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 32669
Join Date: Feb 2003
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Woodland Hills
Vehicle:
2007 2.34LR, EFR7670
LINK G4+ hybrid STi

Default

How did you get a .82 housing from blouch for that turbo? They use Mitsu style hotside housings and I thought the biggest they offered was 8cm^2
kellygnsd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 02:01 PM   #7
4ST-AIR
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 148681
Join Date: May 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: WI
Vehicle:
TBD Looking for STI
Back in the Game!

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kellygnsd View Post
How did you get a .82 housing from blouch for that turbo? They use Mitsu style hotside housings and I thought the biggest they offered was 8cm^2
He asked really nicely It was a one off custom request IIRC.
4ST-AIR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 02:44 PM   #8
Mycues1982
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 86995
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Vehicle:
2005 Tacoma

Default

Nice to see someone with this turbo finally. Maybe the horsepower drop is from the inlet hose collapsing?
Mycues1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 02:47 PM   #9
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kellygnsd View Post
How did you get a .82 housing from blouch for that turbo? They use Mitsu style hotside housings and I thought the biggest they offered was 8cm^2
Sorry for the confusion. It is a GT35R .82 CHRA center section on a mitsu frankenstein exhaust housing
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4ST-AIR View Post
He asked really nicely It was a one off custom request IIRC.
Not really one off. At the time that I bought it I had never even seen the 3.5 available at all and even to this day you need to ask for it (since they still do not have it on the website).
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 02:58 PM   #10
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mycues1982 View Post
Nice to see someone with this turbo finally. Maybe the horsepower drop is from the inlet hose collapsing?
I already thought about that as an option but, I dont really think that is the case. That intake tube is pretty sturdy 4ply and would take a lot of negitive pressure to collapse it. I am thinking that the IGW starts to pull open when the boost pressure goes over 23-24 psi? Thanks for the suggestion though. Any other ideas??

Matt
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 03:24 PM   #11
kellygnsd
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 32669
Join Date: Feb 2003
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Woodland Hills
Vehicle:
2007 2.34LR, EFR7670
LINK G4+ hybrid STi

Default

The CHRA doesn't have an A/R, that's determined by the exhaust housing you put on it so a GT35R CHRA is a GT35R CHRA. The compressor and turbine A/Rs are determined by the hotside and the compressor covers you put on.
kellygnsd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 03:55 PM   #12
zeropsi
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 175453
Join Date: Mar 2008
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: wilCO, IL
Vehicle:
AE86 GT-S coupe
i <3 alqonquin homosauce

Default

Good numbers. No offense, but I think you're leaving a lot on the table by running those cams on (what I presume are) stock 2.0 heads. They flow better than 2.5 heads, but I still think that's more cam than the heads can flow. Headwork would probably open it up quite a bit. Just my $.02

Numbers look great, so does the car.
zeropsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 04:01 PM   #13
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kellygnsd View Post
The CHRA doesn't have an A/R, that's determined by the exhaust housing you put on it so a GT35R CHRA is a GT35R CHRA. The compressor and turbine A/Rs are determined by the hotside and the compressor covers you put on.
Good point. From what I understand it is based on the GT3082 hotside with mitsu flanges, a GT35r center cartrige and a gt40 compressor (AKA GT3040r but with a mitsu housing). Please correct me if I am wrong. That is just what I was understanding it was?

Matt
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 04:04 PM   #14
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zer0psi View Post
Good numbers. No offense, but I think you're leaving a lot on the table by running those cams on (what I presume are) stock 2.0 heads. They flow better than 2.5 heads, but I still think that's more cam than the heads can flow. Headwork would probably open it up quite a bit. Just my $.02

Numbers look great, so does the car.
Thanks,

You are correct on the stock 2.0L heads and I agree headwork will be one of the next things to come.

Matt

Last edited by 0225wrx; 08-29-2008 at 04:06 PM. Reason: oops
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 04:29 PM   #15
zeropsi
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 175453
Join Date: Mar 2008
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: wilCO, IL
Vehicle:
AE86 GT-S coupe
i <3 alqonquin homosauce

Default

That's cool. It's already a monster and only going to improve from here!

How's the idle?
zeropsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 04:46 PM   #16
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zer0psi View Post
That's cool. It's already a monster and only going to improve from here!

How's the idle?
Idle is a little rough but not that bad (idle is set a little higher 1000-1100rpm). I do get a slight stumble when cruising with very light throttle but that is to be expected. I can tell that there is something holding it back though. As soon as I figure that out, it will really come alive.

Matt
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 05:42 PM   #17
Phatron
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 36033
Join Date: Apr 2003
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Tuning Lab
Vehicle:
CEO PhatBottiTuning
2006 STi GTX3582 + Meth

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 0225wrx View Post

SlowBoy Racing 3"- 4 ply Silicone intake hose

When we tried to do a 110 sunoco map, power would climb hard but, as soon as it would pass 23-24 psi hp would drop. I think the IWG is pulling open and loosing boost?
The silicone inlet may be collapsing at the higher boost on race gas. If you get it on the dyno again try to watch the hose.
If you cant do that, try logging it on the street without the filter on to see if that helps.

I'd suggest just switching to the APS hard pipe, then the collapsing is just never a potential issue.....or trying a different air filter.

Here is a thead from DynoFlash about it. The conclusion most people come to is that the inlet collapses due to a poor air filter.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ghlight=perrin
Phatron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 05:57 PM   #18
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phatron View Post
The silicone inlet may be collapsing at the higher boost on race gas. If you get it on the dyno again try to watch the hose.
If you cant do that, try logging it on the street without the filter on to see if that helps.

I'd suggest just switching to the APS hard pipe, then the collapsing is just never a potential issue.....or trying a different air filter.

Here is a thead from DynoFlash about it. The conclusion most people come to is that the inlet collapses due to a poor air filter.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ghlight=perrin
WOW!! I retract my previous statement. Ill def check that out. I didnt think that could happen quite like that. Sorry, Mycues1982

Matt
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 06:23 PM   #19
Mycues1982
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 86995
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Vehicle:
2005 Tacoma

Default

haha np, I think alot of the silicone inlets now available are 5 ply so there is less of a chance for collapsing. I'm running a hard inlet so there is no chance of it.
Mycues1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 06:24 PM   #20
Phatron
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 36033
Join Date: Apr 2003
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Tuning Lab
Vehicle:
CEO PhatBottiTuning
2006 STi GTX3582 + Meth

Default

^^ People have also put hose clamps around the inlets to make them not able to collapse.....but you have to put them on after the hose is already under the intake manifold so i cant imagine its a pleasant experience.

Much like APS puts the steel band around the silicone elbow on their turbo inlet pipe

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop...ba8d00cc670dfa
Phatron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 06:43 PM   #21
kyleblix
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 73495
Join Date: Oct 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Portland
Vehicle:
Audi Q5, Ford Raptor

Default

very nice set up
kyleblix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 11:33 PM   #22
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kyleblix View Post
very nice set up
Thank you

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phatron View Post
^^ People have also put hose clamps around the inlets to make them not able to collapse.....but you have to put them on after the hose is already under the intake manifold so i cant imagine its a pleasant experience.

Much like APS puts the steel band around the silicone elbow on their turbo inlet pipe

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop...ba8d00cc670dfa
I checked it out tonight and the inlet hose is very rigid but I cant rule it out until I do some more testing. Ill see what I can find over the weekend. Thanks again.

Matt
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2008, 10:38 AM   #23
Rick539
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 35997
Join Date: Apr 2003
Default

Question, I just put the Dom 3 on my new hybrid. Still breaking in. Are you using a restrictor pill in the feedback line to the WG? I am using a utec at this time (hydra going in soon) and have the txs bleed valve for boost contol. Thanks for any info
Rick539 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2008, 03:07 PM   #24
howfast?
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 102027
Join Date: Dec 2005
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: oc
Vehicle:
BugI Tsx retro lamps
for sale not listed pm me

Subaru Stars

Quote:
Originally Posted by zer0psi View Post
Good numbers. No offense, but I think you're leaving a lot on the table by running those cams on (what I presume are) stock 2.0 heads. They flow better than 2.5 heads, but I still think that's more cam than the heads can flow. Headwork would probably open it up quite a bit. Just my $.02
^word
howfast? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2008, 03:33 PM   #25
0225wrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142701
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MADISON, WI
Vehicle:
2002 bugeye/ 79 Brat
WRX=386hp/ Brat=alot less

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick539 View Post
Question, I just put the Dom 3 on my new hybrid. Still breaking in. Are you using a restrictor pill in the feedback line to the WG? I am using a utec at this time (hydra going in soon) and have the txs bleed valve for boost contol. Thanks for any info
I am not using a restrictor anymore and I have a GM boost solenoid.


On another note, I did find a huge problem with my breather system (I just wasn't thinking when I was putting it together I guess) And now I am no longer having oil in my intercooler pipes and it runs and idles stronger and better than it has in a while. We are going to the track on Saturday so we will see what she does.

Matt
0225wrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My hybrid build on a budget... Drink Built Motor Discussion 179 12-23-2015 05:05 PM
'02 PPG 5spd, AEM EMS, Dom 3.5r etc.(Madison, WI) 0225wrx MWSOC Private Classifieds 9 07-31-2009 12:21 AM
Finally after 3 years, car is on the road, Jdm V7 Sti engine and Fp Green dyno video! AprilArchambeau Proven Power Bragging 39 06-14-2008 01:00 PM
Finally got the EJ18T on the dyno... scoobyimprza Mid Atlantic Impreza Club -- MAIC 4 08-02-2004 01:51 PM
AMG V8 first miles are on the dyno, what about the STI? nicktckhoo STi Forum Archive 12 06-10-2003 08:56 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2017 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2017, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.