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Old 03-10-2008, 11:22 PM   #1
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Well the results are in,... Another great Tim Bailey tune. On the Heartbreaker Mustang Dyno @ Buschur Racing in Wakeman, Ohio. I was unable to get a dyno printout due to a printer malfunction so I had to settle for a screenshot.

2002 2.0L stock TD04 stock internals 95K miles

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240whp/270trq on pump and
250whp/315trq on C16

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Old 03-10-2008, 11:25 PM   #2
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Let's see some times, nice torque for that little bugger.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:26 PM   #3
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240 on pump is pretty damn good on a mustang.

I need a tune

Im thinking after tax return imma do a Evo 16g, injectors, bigger TMIC and a fuel pump
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:26 PM   #4
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nice! Any plans on taking her to the track to see how it runs? Must be quite an event inside the car when that turbo hits!
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:35 PM   #5
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Awesome! How soon will it see the track? Can you post your new mod list?
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:36 PM   #6
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Well we picked up 40 ft lbs of torque and a few horseys from last year. You will definately see some track times (last year it ran 12.88 @ 107) as we are reaching for that stock turbo stock internals record.
(Oops didnt even pick up on that it was you OppositeLock, well till now that is)
Had ALOT of tools and extra weight in the car but felt pretty damn good. It rained on the way home from the tune as it always does so we will have to wait for some nicer weather and the tracks to open to see how it all turns out.

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Old 03-11-2008, 01:16 AM   #7
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What does your boost curve look like on the pump and C16 tune?
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:31 AM   #8
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what kind of intercooler are you running? looks like you are losing power in the upper RPMS on the c16 tune, so i am wondering if your IC is heatsoaking from the increased boost.
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:04 AM   #9
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^^TXS TMIC


nice numbers Joel. I assume this was with the standard internal wastegate??? Get that external installed and pull the vacuum line off the wastegate.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:45 AM   #10
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Thanks everyone,
During the tuning session The IC did get heatsoaked due to the top fan being on low(oops). We packed the IC with snow and the power and torque came up instantly in the next pull. I was being a little conservative with those numbers I posted up because people are super critical and it was a LONG day at the dyno. I do not have the actual chart printout with the peak numbers either due to the printer failure so it was easier to lowball round the numbers.
Mod list follows with asterisks * for new mods

Cobb shortram intake
*Gimmick turbo inlet (previously stock)
TXS intercooler hoses
*TXS big TMIC (previously stock)
*PnP TB
*PnP Intake
*TGV deletes
*Phenolic spacers
*Perrin EL (previously stock manifold)
*Grimmspeed EWG uppipe with 38mm Tial (previously TXS)
*Perrin style EBCS
*walboro FP
*DW 750's (for turbo upgrade when done)
Invidia V2 Downpipe
Buschur Racing Catback
Perrin lightweight crank pulley

Pump runs 18psi tapering to 14psi on top
C16 runs 23psi tapering to 13psi on top

And yes I know it is blowing hot air, guess Meth might be the only thing that could help that at all.
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:37 AM   #11
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the turbo is still in a meaty part of it's efficiency. look for some of the compressor maps- you'd be surprised. also, you picked up quite a bit of torque from the increase in boost, so that supports the fact that the turbo is still pretty happy in the midrange.

you can see that it is simply maxxed out up top- she's got nothing left to give there.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:39 PM   #12
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Yeah its a torquey little thing now,.... just wants to spin in those low rpms,... looks like new tires are in my near future.
It is completely out of breath up top however
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:58 PM   #13
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*Grimmspeed EWG uppipe with 38mm Tial (previously TXS)
Does this mean you switched from a TXS EWG setup to the Grimmspeed EWG setup? Or from a regular TXS uppipe to the Gimmspeed setup? If it was EWG to EWG, why?

Also, you've still got plenty of room boost-wise, go to town.
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:59 PM   #14
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nice job, i was at 42 last year in my 07 tr when u ran that 12.88. looking forward to seeing you out there again this year. i added a cai and a diff map since last year, looking to get in the 12's now. you now have 2.5l torque. its a great feeling
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:17 PM   #15
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Does this mean you switched from a TXS EWG setup to the Grimmspeed EWG setup? Or from a regular TXS uppipe to the Gimmspeed setup? If it was EWG to EWG, why?

Also, you've still got plenty of room boost-wise, go to town.
It was previously a TXS uppipe nonEWG.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:19 PM   #16
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Let's see some times, nice torque for that little bugger.
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Old 10-16-2008, 12:51 AM   #17
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jesus...stellar numbers from a 2.0 w/ td04! we may have to use this on our website if you dont mind

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Old 10-16-2008, 01:05 AM   #18
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Damn, you might want to invest in a neck brace.
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:49 AM   #19
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Hm... what are you A/F ratios running? I have almost the exact same set up with way less power.
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Hm... what are you A/F ratios running? I have almost the exact same set up with way less power.
How do you know you make less power? I'm willing to bet a large sum of money that you didn't use the same dyno, so you can't compare .
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:50 AM   #21
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your torgue numbers are incredbile!!!! I put down 255whp/268 tq when i got my 2.0, td04, fmic, catless utec tune done
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:56 AM   #22
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IBsomeonesaysHeyWTFIdontmakethatmuchtorqueonmyVF39 whatswrongwithmycar?
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Old 10-16-2008, 08:24 AM   #23
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it appears the car might be slower on the c16 map.....it made less power above 5500rpm on the race gas.....or maybe it just knocked that run...but its definately less up there.
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:09 AM   #24
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Old setup was faster,....Never did get back to the 107 traps I had with that setup,....go figure
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Old setup was faster,....Never did get back to the 107 traps I had with that setup,....go figure
its about placement of the torque curve...its too low for a drag/high rpm race situation. Would be great for rally or auto-x though.

My guess for the lessened power is due to overspinning the turbo and running it WAAAAY out of its efficiency (probably both directions on the compressor map ) How much did boost fall off on the C16 map?
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