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Old 07-17-2017, 06:58 PM   #1
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Im nearing the end of my engine's break in period at the first 1000 miles and was planning on getting an oil change when I do reach 1000, (I'm at about 700 atm), could you guys give me some input on what kind of oil you guys use on your STi's? I was thinking about buying Motul but I don't really know which type of oil to go with. Newbie owner of a 2017 STi asking for help, thanks.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:49 PM   #2
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Im nearing the end of my engine's break in period at the first 1000 miles and was planning on getting an oil change when I do reach 1000, (I'm at about 700 atm), could you guys give me some input on what kind of oil you guys use on your STi's? I was thinking about buying Motul but I don't really know which type of oil to go with. Newbie owner of a 2017 STi asking for help, thanks.
What does your owners manual say? Countless threads on here discussing oil. Find those and read them and make a decision. I could tell you one thing and Joe Blow will say that's crap and to use something else. An important part is to keep the receipts to prove oil changes have been done in case it's ever an issue with a warranty claim.
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yeah ya can't go wrong with the owners manual.
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Im nearing the end of my engine's break in period at the first 1000 miles and was planning on getting an oil change when I do reach 1000, (I'm at about 700 atm), could you guys give me some input on what kind of oil you guys use on your STi's? I was thinking about buying Motul but I don't really know which type of oil to go with. Newbie owner of a 2017 STi asking for help, thanks.


Read the manual.

Do what it says.

Drive the car.
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Will do, thank you guys
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:47 PM   #7
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Don't waste your time doing it at 1,000, It's completely unnecessary. Just follow the manual...over time you will find your favorite oil. Enjoy the car man, congrats!
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:19 PM   #8
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Don't waste your time doing it at 1,000, It's completely unnecessary. Just follow the manual...over time you will find your favorite oil. Enjoy the car man, congrats!


Appreciate it brotha, thanks
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Old 07-18-2017, 06:14 AM   #9
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Don't waste your time doing it at 1,000, It's completely unnecessary. Just follow the manual...over time you will find your favorite oil. Enjoy the car man, congrats!
Agreed the oil question is ultra subjective and not that big of a deal as long as you use synthetic.
But it is NOT a waste of time doing a change at 1000 miles on a bran new motor, not even close.

Do it yourself and take a look at the oil. It will be filthy and FULL of metal.
Oil that is full of metal is not a matter of opinion.
Do you want oil with metal in it circulating through your new engine? Or would you rather spend $40 replacing it?
Once it's broken in you won't see that anymore.
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Old 07-18-2017, 08:17 AM   #10
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Just do it around 2-3kish
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Agreed the oil question is ultra subjective and not that big of a deal as long as you use synthetic.
But it is NOT a waste of time doing a change at 1000 miles on a bran new motor, not even close.

Do it yourself and take a look at the oil. It will be filthy and FULL of metal.
Oil that is full of metal is not a matter of opinion.
Do you want oil with metal in it circulating through your new engine? Or would you rather spend $40 replacing it?
Once it's broken in you won't see that anymore.
What he said ^^^^

Another thing is doing whatever the Owner's Manual says is not always the best approach but since you are just getting started, it is the best place to start.

Do some research on oil consumption hereon NASIOC and you will see that Subaru recommends a thinner type oil ( 5W30 for example. I don't know what your manual recommends ).

Subaru does that to increase gas mileage and these lower weight oils tend to get used faster than a thicker weight oil ( 5W40 for example ) and not all oils are created equal.

As someone else mentioned, I can say one thing and someone else will come in and say that's crap and buy whatever they say they use.

Use a synthetic and a quality brand oil, not the cheapest stuff you can find. Oil is the engine's life blood, so buy cheap and get problems.

Redline and Motul are both quality brands.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:27 AM   #12
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Im nearing the end of my engine's break in period at the first 1000 miles and was planning on getting an oil change when I do reach 1000, (I'm at about 700 atm), could you guys give me some input on what kind of oil you guys use on your STi's? I was thinking about buying Motul but I don't really know which type of oil to go with. Newbie owner of a 2017 STi asking for help, thanks.
If your cars basically stock stay with subaru oil and filter to retain oem warranty
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If your cars basically stock stay with subaru oil and filter to retain oem warranty
Yet again another myth.

You DO NOT need to stay w/Subaru oil & filter to retain your new car warranty.

You NEED to use similar products that at least meet the minimum standards set forth by Subaru for the required fluids.

... but you can't go wrong with the Subaru oil filter.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:28 AM   #14
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Yet again another myth.



You DO NOT need to stay w/Subaru oil & filter to retain your new car warranty.



You NEED to use similar products that at least meet the minimum standards set forth by Subaru for the required fluids.



... but you can't go wrong with the Subaru oil filter.


I've heard certain Subaru dealers, such as the one in puente hills, ca, do all oil changes using Motul brand oil, and I hear it's a quality product that people use on engines that take proper abuse based on their power level/driving style, like tuned and modified setups. Seems like the right way to go, I'll be reading what the owners manual says regardless though.
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Agreed the oil question is ultra subjective and not that big of a deal as long as you use synthetic.

But it is NOT a waste of time doing a change at 1000 miles on a bran new motor, not even close.



Do it yourself and take a look at the oil. It will be filthy and FULL of metal.

Oil that is full of metal is not a matter of opinion.

Do you want oil with metal in it circulating through your new engine? Or would you rather spend $40 replacing it?

Once it's broken in you won't see that anymore.


This was my reasoning reasoning behind doing a change specifically at 1000, metal shavings from a brand new, now broken in, engine.
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This was my reasoning reasoning behind doing a change specifically at 1000, metal shavings from a brand new, now broken in, engine.
good reasoning

I did my first one at 800 (ultra filthy) and then another at 2000 (not nearly as dirty but still way worse than normal), and then at 5000 and went every 5000 from then on.
Now even at 5000 intervals it looks pretty good and consumes zero drops of oil.
Just crossed 40,000 yesterday.
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good reasoning



I did my first one at 800 (ultra filthy) and then another at 2000 (not nearly as dirty but still way worse than normal), and then at 5000 and went every 5000 from then on.

Now even at 5000 intervals it looks pretty good and consumes zero drops of oil.

Just crossed 40,000 yesterday.


Oh nice man, what year and model?
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:56 AM   #18
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What he said ^^^^



Another thing is doing whatever the Owner's Manual says is not always the best approach but since you are just getting started, it is the best place to start.



Do some research on oil consumption hereon NASIOC and you will see that Subaru recommends a thinner type oil ( 5W30 for example. I don't know what your manual recommends ).



Subaru does that to increase gas mileage and these lower weight oils tend to get used faster than a thicker weight oil ( 5W40 for example ) and not all oils are created equal.



As someone else mentioned, I can say one thing and someone else will come in and say that's crap and buy whatever they say they use.



Use a synthetic and a quality brand oil, not the cheapest stuff you can find. Oil is the engine's life blood, so buy cheap and get problems.



Redline and Motul are both quality brands.


I believe what that one Subaru dealership, that I mentioned in a post below, was proving for their oil changes was Motul 8100 Eco-nergy 5W30 synthetic
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This was my reasoning reasoning behind doing a change specifically at 1000, metal shavings from a brand new, now broken in, engine.
This is what is suggested by the few dealerships I've worked at (not Subaru specifically) and with most power sport dealerships you instantly void your warranty from all of the Asian manufacturers if you don't get your first service at the required mileage or hours. Getting your first oil change is very important and I would suggest getting them before the required mileage/time for the first few. Brand new motors are absolutely filled with metal shavings and will destroy a perfectly good motor if they're not removed.
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As one person above suggested, one at about 1000 then another at 2000 got out a newer engines gunk, after that it was just about every 5,000. Probably the direction im gonna go with. Thanks for your input
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I believe what that one Subaru dealership, that I mentioned in a post below, was proving for their oil changes was Motul 8100 Eco-nergy 5W30 synthetic
If it was me, I wouldn't use 5W30.
I have used three (3) different engine oils over the years and I would recommend any one of them. It all depends on availability and cost

1. Mobil1 0W40
2. Redline 5W40
3. Motul 5W40 8100 X-cess

Ran my EJ205 on #'s 1 & 2 above. It was @150,000 miles when I pulled it ( well, I had it pulled for an engine swap to something better ) and it was still running strong with solid compression @ 145 per cylinder

Now I just need to find a new home for my EJ205
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If it was me, I wouldn't use 5W30.

I have used three (3) different engine oils over the years and I would recommend any one of them. It all depends on availability and cost



1. Mobil1 0W40

2. Redline 5W40

3. Motul 5W40 8100 X-cess



Ran my EJ205 on #'s 1 & 2 above. It was @150,000 miles when I pulled it ( well, I had it pulled for an engine swap to something better ) and it was still running strong with solid compression @ 145 per cylinder



Now I just need to find a new home for my EJ205


So thicker oils run better, but you say that Subaru uses the thinner oils to increase gas mileage, will using the thicker oil worsen my mpg?
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Not like you would even notice. Automobile Manufacturers have to meet specific Federal Guidelines, one of which is a minimum fuel mileage criteria.

They will go to any length to meet these requirements.
That is why you see more plastics and thinner metal panels in cars today as opposed to years ago.
Do you realize your windshield glass isn't glass at all, but plastic? Why? Higher fuel mileage.

But, let's be honest ...
If you are truly concerned about fuel mileage, then you bought the wrong car.

AWD sucks more gas than a FWD, all other things being equal.
If you lose a mile a gallon, or whatever it really is, because you used a 5W40 instead of a 5W30, then who cares?
Which is more important to you?
- Keeping your engine happier?
- Saving a few pennies each time you fill up?
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Not like you would even notice. Automobile Manufacturers have to meet specific Federal Guidelines, one of which is a minimum fuel mileage criteria.



They will go to any length to meet these requirements.

That is why you see more plastics and thinner metal panels in cars today as opposed to years ago.

Do you realize your windshield glass isn't glass at all, but plastic? Why? Higher fuel mileage.



But, let's be honest ...

If you are truly concerned about fuel mileage, then you bought the wrong car.



AWD sucks more gas than a FWD, all other things being equal.

If you lose a mile a gallon, or whatever it really is, because you used a 5W40 instead of a 5W30, then who cares?

Which is more important to you?

- Keeping your engine happier?

- Saving a few pennies each time you fill up?


Yeah no I agree, keeping my engine happy is top priority for me, and I knew what the mpg was when I got the car, if I wanted good gas mileage I would've bought a Prius.
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