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Old 12-11-2008, 09:57 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by AVANTI R5 View Post
It's sorta funny,We want their small miser cars and they want our Big soft/floaty guzzlers
we want their death bubbles?
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:05 PM   #27
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at the recent auto show in sacramento, GM had the largest display since they had cars from every "brand". Needless to say, it felt like you walked into the same exhibit in each of GMs rooms. Not only that, the fit and finish of the cars is lackluster. Even compared to toyota, mazda, VW, the quality of the fit and finish were years apart. as someone else mentioned, they used the same steering wheels, gauge clusters, door handles, you name it, on pretty much all of their cars. Plus now all gm cars have a small GM badge on regardless of the brand.

The only american cars there that i was impressed with were the Ford Flex, F150, and Corvette Zr1.
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:14 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by JuggernautTCW View Post
whats up with another round of bashing?... the new caddilac line-up is not disappointing (especially CTS) at all. The new Pontiac G8 looks very promising. Cobalt-SS outperforms any other sport compacts in its segment.

Obviously GM has a lot more to improve, especially in their Buick brand IMHO, but I think they have done a wonderful job in the past year or two when compared to what Subaru has done to their lineup - less than inspiring looks and same old engine and drivetrains from the last decade.

I really hope Americans will give GM another chance and put its bad reputation from the 90s behind them. This is like bashing the Chinese for their economy in 2008 when their economy has grown more than we did.
^^^ Praising/thinking like this is the biggest problem to GM. To beat the competition, you have to be better, not also ran. It is funny that you mentioned the 90s. In the 90 GM tout their quality problem were in the 80s !! Last week I went to LA auto show, tried the Cadilac CTS, close the door and interior parts rattled; the door handle is made of 2 halve of plastics that flexed in my hand. The Colbalt ss interior is supper cheap feel. G8 interior is also low rent. Lately GM did a good job tunning sport car on the Ring, now fix the remaining parts of the car !!
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:06 PM   #29
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Chevy has only one good thing going for it, The cruze. The interior looks great in the pictures, and the exterior is striking and fits into the company image (malibu). If chevy has brains they'll drop in the de-tuned 2.0 litter of the SS, the same in the upcoming saab. Make it an inexpensive model and then push the 260hp SS into the market after sales start to fall off. The base 2.0 litter turbo will sell like the European FORD st and then they can keep the SS even more hard core than the current model like the FORD RS.

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