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Old 12-17-2008, 11:50 AM   #1
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Default 2-month-old HID kit caught FIRE, need your help to fight with the seller

I bought this HID kit off eBay on October 13th 2008 for my 07 Subaru STI as fog lights HID
the kit worked properly and nothing had happened until last Saturday

It was a cloudy day so I turned on both low beam and fog lights once I started the car. 2 minutes after I started driving, I smelled some kind of burning (smelled like mix of natural gas and BBQ smoke) but I thought it was the truck in front of me.
After another 3 minutes, I arrived at my friend("Doctorchu" on NASIOC and LGT.com)'s apartment. I saw big smoke coming out of my driver's side fender when I got off the car, so I walked to the front of my car and then saw flames coming out from driver's side fog light and side bumper vent.
I ran to my friend's apartment and asked him and his roommates bring out as many water bottles as they can cuz my car is on fire, we used nearly 5 gallons of water to pulled out the fire and here are the result:







I emailed the eBay seller (1076 feedback on eBay) right after I got home, I asked them to cover my loss (bumper, fog lights, fog covers) due to their bad product that caught fire and burned my car

The seller first told me that they don't think its their HID kit that cause the fire and wanted me to report my insurance, but I told them there is no other parts around except the windshield waterspray tank and that thing can never cause fire
Therefore, they agreed to send me another HID kit for free, but I dont need another HID kit unless my damage is fixed.
I even said that I can bring my car to their office, which is only 5 miles away from my town according to eBay's item location, for them to investigate in couple of the emails I sent them

I believe its their responsibility to take care of my loss but they refused to

the moeny is so tight nowadays, I dont have the budget to fix my bumper and fog especially when the fault is not on me

PLEASE let me know what else I can do!!!
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:51 AM   #2
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:52 AM   #3
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You bought cheap garbage off ebay, and then want them to be responsible to replace thousands of dollars worth of repairs?

You better just go ahead and call your insurance and get ready for the deductible.
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:53 AM   #4
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i say go to thier office and have a nice chat with the guy while holding a baseball bat. don't wait for them to get back to you...go there now!
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:54 AM   #5
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You bought cheap garbage off ebay, and then want them to be responsible to replace thousands of dollars worth of repairs?

You better just go ahead and call your insurance and get ready for the deductible.

BS i don't care what it is ...if you sell someone something and it damages your property you are liable as the sellar of that product....i say the seller better call his lawyer and his ins. company!

Edit: plus how do you know it's cheap garbage?
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:56 AM   #6
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You bought cheap garbage off ebay, and then want them to be responsible to replace thousands of dollars worth of repairs?

You better just go ahead and call your insurance and get ready for the deductible.
+1

oh yeah... and "5 gallons" of water on an electrical fire, probably didn't help anything.


but yeah, that does suck really bad. i feel for ya man
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:57 AM   #7
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yeah but who installed the foglights?
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:57 AM   #8
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BS i don't care what it is ...if you sell someone something and it damages your property you are liable as the sellar of that product....i say the seller better call his lawyer and his ins. company!

Edit: plus how do you know it's cheap garbage?
better go find the add and read the fine print. they probably arent responsible for use of the product.
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:58 AM   #9
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You bought cheap garbage off ebay, and then want them to be responsible to replace thousands of dollars worth of repairs?

You better just go ahead and call your insurance and get ready for the deductible.
This..../thread
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:59 AM   #10
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Hey guys I just bought this fake 18G turbo setup, with a free FMIC, TBE, headers, and $100 gift card for a great price of $200!!!! All of its brand new! FREE SHIPPING!! It HAS! to be legit, as the seller has 500000 positive feedback, and ebay is a very reputable company who has never been shady in the past, along with paypa!

My car is so going to own!
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:00 PM   #11
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insurance may not cover it because of aftermarket parts that caused the fire, who knows, call them maybe they can help even if you dont file a claim
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:00 PM   #12
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i say go to thier office and have a nice chat with the guy while holding a baseball bat. don't wait for them to get back to you...go there now!
i asked for their office address (so i can go down their and show them my car) in the email couple times, the only reply i got is, "let me know your shipping address so we can send another set of HID to you"

seriously, WTF
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:01 PM   #13
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That sucks...

Try to get him to cover it, but it will likely be a difficult battle for you.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:04 PM   #14
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better go find the add and read the fine print. they probably arent responsible for use of the product.
i read the ad very carefully, there is nothing about that^^^
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:04 PM   #15
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This more than likely would fall under manufacturer's liability. I will assume it is a cheap Chinese kit until it is stated by the OP otherwise. I doubt the Chinese manufacturer of your HID kit will provide any compensation. Even if they are a more reputable brand, the burden of proof is on you. This is already a bust as you put HIDs in a halogen fixture.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:04 PM   #16
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BS i don't care what it is ...if you sell someone something and it damages your property you are liable as the sellar of that product....i say the seller better call his lawyer and his ins. company!

Edit: plus how do you know it's cheap garbage?
I dont think that's exactly true. When you buy tires for your car and one of them blows out right afterward, you usually only get a new tire. They dont buy you a new rim for any curbage that might have happened. Or say you bought lowering springs and hit something in the road, thus ripping your oil pan off. Is that the spring companys fault?

I hate to say it, but when buy stuff that isn't made for the car and something happens, then that's on you.


You have to pay to play.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:05 PM   #17
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You used water..to put out an electrical fire?

Im sure that didnt help the process much.

Anyways..that sucks. Google their business, you can get their address..and go down there.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:07 PM   #18
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Public announcement... please dont "rice" out your subys.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:07 PM   #19
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I thought everything I have ever read said it was a bad idea to put HID's in fogs. Guess this makes it true.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:08 PM   #20
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this would have never happened with the EVO.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:08 PM   #21
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well either way i hope it works out ok for you OP. if not just give me your car LOL!
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:08 PM   #22
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Even if you were to file a claim in a small claims court, for damages to your car..... you will more than likely not win.

There is no way to prove the device was actually faulty, and caused the damage to your car.

The defendant could also counter-claim, saying that you didn't correctly install the lights, and thus could have resulted in the unit catching fire.

So like others said.... file with insurance, is your best bet.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:09 PM   #23
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I doubt they are going to do anything for you. First, I am fairly sure that "thier" warrenty only covers the replacement of manufacter defects. Second, they did not do the installation. Not saying that you did not install the ballast correctly but who knows. Your insurance company should cover the damage minus you deductable (same thing as installing aftermarket stereo equipment) but your rates will most likely go up fromt he claim since you installed the product that caused the damage.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:10 PM   #24
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That's what you get got buying a crappy HID kit off eBay. The company who sold you the part is in no way liable. If anyone is, it might be the manufacturer, but good luck getting anything from them. Are you sure you even installed them correctly?
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:12 PM   #25
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Honestly, it's not their fault....fully. You decided to buy an aftermarket kit off of ebay. Granted, the guy had a really high feeback score, it is still an aftermarket kit.

Sometimes there's a faulty device, which was probably the case in this scenario, however the seller only has to replace the faulty device, not what it effects. You took the gamble to put a cheaper product in your car, unfortunately, that gamble did not pay off.

The seller has no way of knowing you didn't install the lights properly, resulting in the damage. If you bought the product, and the service of installation from them, then yes they should be held accountable. However, since you only bought a product, they are in the clear.

Personally, I would side with the seller on this one. He offered to send you a replacement for free. That shows they aren't a bunch of arseholes.
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