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Old 12-21-2008, 09:22 AM   #1
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Join Date: May 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Collegeville Pa
2003 BAJA
Garnet Red

Question Here I Go Again... Trouble Starting!

This is the third winter I'll be writing about this, trouble starting my Baja. I woke up this morning to my baja being covered in a sheet of ice. I tried to start the car and it wouldn't turn over. On my 15th turn of the key it started up just fine. I've had this problem for 3 winters. I had a tune up one month ago (got new wires too), my battery was replaced 2 years ago with the onset of this problem, and I put a bottle of HEET in the gas tank yesterday. THE ONLY TIME THIS HAPPENS IS WHEN THERE IS ICE OR SNOW COVERING THE CAR. I can start this car at zero degrees with no problem as long as there is no ice or snow on the car. This problem dosen't happen with moisture in warmer weather just in case you might have been thinking that. THe dealer has never been able to help on this. After the car starts its good all day so mechanics never experience the issue when I take it in. ANY IDEAS?
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:36 PM   #2
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2005 Baja-STI AT
Monterey/Brilliant Silver


Get a car cover.
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Old 12-21-2008, 04:11 PM   #3
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one trick I've found with my friends 2005 turbo was if you opened and closed the hood hard enough to break off most of the ice it'll start up a bit easier.
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Old 12-21-2008, 06:46 PM   #4
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2008 Forester
Steel Silver


My vote is a bad connection/wire/cable some where, battery, battery cable, ground cable, ect.....

cold causes things to contract. A bad connection has high resistance which causes heat, which builds up after several attempts to start the car and thus causes that connection to expand and form a good connection allowing you to start the car. The ice on the hood may be just the icing on the cake that cools the car/connection off to the point of not working.

Start by checking all of the battery, alt., starter and ground connections. It may even be the starter, starter relay/solenoid it self. sadly this is some thing that can take a long time to chase down.

One thing to do would be do a wiggle test. When it wont start on the first try, start wiggling wires, cables and connection points one by one 'til you hit a jack pot. Wiggle one try and start, repeat.
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Old 12-24-2008, 09:51 AM   #5
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2003 Baja
Black Granite Pearl


I'm not sure this will help and I can't check because the Baja is buried in 9" of new snow, but I had a similar problem in a Dodge Dart. It turned out to be the bulkhead connector on the firewall. I'm going to assume the Baja has one? Normally they bolt or clip together but are not entirely weatherproof. I opened the one in the Dart, shot it full of contact cleaner from an electronics store, added some dielectric grease like they use on the spark plug boots, and closed it up. Never had a problem after that. That's about all I can offer.
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