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Old 06-26-2012, 12:28 PM   #1
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Default Who has experience with the Nest Self-Learning Thermostat?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ref=pe_164970_24548400_pe_ecg/?ASIN=B006ML9J4O
supposed to save you energy costs by learning your preferences and you can monitor/control away from the house (via phone or another computer).

worth the $$?

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Old 06-26-2012, 12:32 PM   #2
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Anything that costs 600% more than the product it's replacing isn't going to save you any money.


Get a $40 thermostat that has timed modes and big buttons that let you tell it you're staying home or going out.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:32 PM   #3
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Besides being able to control it with your smart phone, why not just install a programmable thermostat.

Mine has 4 different settings, and then settings for every day of the week. Also it was $30.
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SCMedic, I believe, got one awhile back... It' a thermostat... That programs itself. You can buy that or buy a programmable thermostat and do it yourself. IMO, not worth it. Buy a Honeywell.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:37 PM   #5
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Buddy, if you live in a nest then a new thermostat is the least of your concerns.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:50 PM   #6
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Get a $40 thermostat that has timed modes and big buttons that let you tell it you're staying home or going out.
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Besides being able to control it with your smart phone, why not just install a programmable thermostat.

Mine has 4 different settings, and then settings for every day of the week. Also it was $30.

I told my buddy this yesterday. He is getting his first house and wanted one "to save money". I said "If that is saving money, you all in for a world of hurt".

I showed him one of the $40 honeywell deals and said "This will save you atleast $200 right away."
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:06 PM   #7
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I like the idea of a wi-fi enabled thermostat that I can access from the web or smartphone because often my schedule is erratic enough that a standard programmable one doesn't cut it.. I don't think this thing would do any better a job at scheduling things for me.. I just want to click on something before I head home so that it will be comfy by the time I get there.
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:11 PM   #8
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I wanted to get one last year when I read about it in Pogue's NY Times review of it, but then learned it only works in low voltage systems. Sucks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/01/te...vid-pogue.html

http://support.nest.com/customer/portal/articles/206324
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I like the idea of a wi-fi enabled thermostat that I can access from the web or smartphone because often my schedule is erratic enough that a standard programmable one doesn't cut it.. I don't think this thing would do any better a job at scheduling things for me.. I just want to click on something before I head home so that it will be comfy by the time I get there.
That is the only upside to it, if you have a schedule that has you coming and going at different times yes, But still is it really worth the extra money, when you can just throw on a hoodie or something for the first 40 mins or so till it heats up.

I have just standard baseboard heating (also have a pellet stove, but not on thermostat) so I have mine set for like 30 minutes before I wake up, the bedroom/bathroom heats up and stays like that until I leave in the morning, then it comes back on at 4pm which is usually when I get home give or take 30 minutes.
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Nick has one.

Its kinda cool.
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Nick has one.
He also has a special order CTS-V wagon.
He is the 1%. Obviously :datadrevenue:
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:51 PM   #12
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I told my buddy this yesterday. He is getting his first house and wanted one "to save money". I said "If that is saving money, you all in for a world of hurt".

I showed him one of the $40 honeywell deals and said "This will save you atleast $200 right away."
I did that when I bought my house. Believed the hype for a few minutes, until I realized its cost savings was connected to using a non-programmable thermostat. I think I bought a $20 thermostat and have been happy with it. A Nest would be cool, and having wifi would be cool, but we have a small house too.
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My Nest is a neural net processor; a learning Thermostat
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:59 PM   #14
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The thing is $249 right now. Obviously, the vast majority of appliances in the next few years will all come with some sort of basic Java application + innerwebs access ("smart" fridge, "smart" sprinkler system, "smart" pool pump) but it's really for e-dick swinging at this point as it sells at premium for being first to the market. In another year, there will probably be multiple makers at a price point around $100.

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I *think* that some of the higher end honeywells are network enabled. Imma go google and BRB.

This is the iPhone/Pad/Pod of thermostats. IMO. YMMV. IBBan
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:03 PM   #16
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I *think* that some of the higher end honeywells are network enabled. Imma go google and BRB.

This is the iPhone/Pad/Pod of thermostats. IMO. YMMV. IBBan
A lot of them are. If I was willing to spend $100 or more, they had it with wifi. But, how that works in regards to usage (internal website? Program on a PC it has to connect to?) I'm not sure.
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I'd say get it if you like nifty gadgets. But don't buy it to save money.
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A Nest would be cool, and having wifi would be cool, but we have a small house too.
You don't have enough room for wifi?

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I like the idea of a wi-fi enabled thermostat that I can access from the web or smartphone because often my schedule is erratic enough that a standard programmable one doesn't cut it.. I don't think this thing would do any better a job at scheduling things for me.. I just want to click on something before I head home so that it will be comfy by the time I get there.
There are plenty of existing, proven home automation options that are far cheaper than the Nest.

For instance: http://www.x10.com/home_automation/x10_thermostat.html

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Nest, turn the temp down, would-ya?

I'm sorry, Brad. I'm afraid I can't do that.
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I *think* that some of the higher end honeywells are network enabled. Imma go google and BRB.

This is the iPhone/Pad/Pod of thermostats. IMO. YMMV. IBBan
Apparently their "Prestige 2.0" line is Wifi or Internet enabled.

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We sell them at work. About 165$ never had a complaint from the 3 we've sold.
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It was designed and company run by former Apple Exec's. It's got some amazing technology in it, that make it well worth the price IMO.

Motion sensors, logic algorithms to predict when your're home and away, remote administration, and more...

However Honeywell could easily shut them down as they own so many of the home thermostat patents, and this is on going litigation between them...
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A lot of them are. If I was willing to spend $100 or more, they had it with wifi. But, how that works in regards to usage (internal website? Program on a PC it has to connect to?) I'm not sure.
Honeywell's site is poop.

I can't tell if you have to use their special router, or if the special router can tie into e-management of other home features like lighting or appliances.

Most of the ones that had wifi didn't indicate you could tweak it outside the house...but some of them did mention handling setpoints and initiating recovery which would tell me you can force heating/cooling from offsite.


Regardless: For $240 it isn't that amazing or game changing.

Teiva boy: Unless you are a firefighter or on-call medical person many of the people who could pay $240 for a thermostat have normal hours/routines. Take the 5 minutes to update the $40 unit and be done with it.
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Wait till it becomes self-aware. Anyone not wearing SPF two million is gonna have a bad day
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You don't have enough room for wifi?
The house is wired, who needs wifi?

Just not sure how much of a benefit it would be over a programmable thermostat when you're only talking about 1400 square feet, with 900 of that having heat vents in it (upstairs doesn't have any vents.)
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