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Old 06-24-2009, 09:54 AM   #1
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Default Clinton Racing STi -- Adventures in ICSCC Road Racing

Rather than posting a new thread for after each race, I figured I would just start a running journal for post-race recap/summary/blog. People who want to follow all of our good fortune and mishaps can subscribe to the one thread.

I dunno if it is kosher to post links to previous post-race summaries here, but I'm going to do it anyway... if it's not cool I'm sure I'll hear about it.

Previous Race Recaps
April 2009 ICSCC Rose City Opener @ PIR
April 2009 - From the motorsports sub-forum
May 2009 ICSCC race @ Pacific Raceways
June 2009 Chicane Challenge @ PIR
June 2009 - Also from the motorsports sub-forum
June 2009 ICSCC race @ Mission raceway -- See Post #3

2011 Schedule
April 30 - May 1: Portland International Raceway - Portland, OR
May 21 - May 22: Pacific Raceways - Kent, WA
May 28 - 30: Oregon Raceway Park - Grass Valley, OR (Double Race Weekend)
June 11 - 12: Portland International Raceway - Portland, OR
June 18 - 19: Mission Raceway - Mission, B.C.
July 15 - 17: Spokane County Raceway - Spokane, WA (Triple Race Weekend)
July 30 - 31: Pacific Raceways - Kent, WA
August 13 - 14: Portland International Raceway - Portland, OR
September 3 - 5: Mission Raceway - Mission, B.C. (Double Race Weekend)
September 17 - 18: Oregon Raceway Park - Grass Valley, OR
September 24 - 25: Pacific Raceways - Kent, WA

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Thats a good idea. I have been following most of your threads. Can you add dates to all the events so we can follow them in order?

Good luck out there
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Default Stars, Stripes, and Maples @ Mission Raceway-aka Turbo?We don't need no stinkin turbo

What an interesting, lessons learned filled weekend. I can't say I am not disappointed... but s#%^ happens right?

Overall Mission is a fun track to run! Very tight, slow track with a lot of concrete barriers... not someplace you want to screw up. The track is well suited for lighter cars, with good brakes, and low end torque. For higher hp cars, there just isn't much room to stretch the cars legs and take advantage of the top end speed. I think the max we hit all weekend was 100mph (just barely into 5th gear in our STi). It is a track where to pass people you have to out brake them. Which is a good thing to learn - how to out brake someone without dive bombing them into the corner. I did my share of dive bombing, but tried to keep it as safe as possible... no harm no foul right?

Saturday was a busy stinkin' day for us. I decided to run the novice race again this weekend, even though I am not required to anymore. I figured since I had never been to this track it would be wise to get as much track time as possible. We had 5 track sessions (a total of 90 minutes for the day), all between 11am and 4pm. 4 of our 5 sessions were back to back... where I came right off the track and went right to pre-grid. My wife was there to check tire pressures, but other than that it was turn and burn.

Our First Saturday session was with the senior drivers. Which forced me to quickly learn the track at speed. While I wasn't one of the fastest out there, I wasn't one of the slowest either... which was a little boost to my ego. During this session though I waS still have engine issues above 6000rpm... this is a carryover from our last race at PIR. After a lap or two the engine would just die out at 6000rpm, almost to the point where it would want to misfire. So I was forced to run the session short shifting at about 5800-6000rpm. All gauge readings looked normal... oil temp was a bit high (almost 240).

Second session was with the novices. And even though I was forced to short shift, I was still able to get around people pretty effectively. Going out with the senior guys first definitely helped!

When I came off the track after my first back to back sessions, I did the normal check over. The valve cover breather can was probably half to 2/3rd full (8 to 10 ounces). Also, the inlet line for the valve cover can had blown off... Some serious pressure was building in that can.... WTF? The PCV can was fine, minimal blowby and condensation. Not knowing what was causing the valve cover can to fill like that, I decided that the filtering media in that can was causing too much of a restriction to air flow. So I pulled the filter out.

The third session was back out with the novices again, no difference. Still forced to short shift. Engine still stuttered at 6000rpm. I also popped a CEL (gotta go have it read this week).

Prior to the fourth session I swapped plugs to NGK Iridium IX "one step colder" (NGK 7's) spark plugs. The plugs I pulled out looked normal, no signs of detonation. The 4th session was my qualifying run with the senior drivers. The engine would now rev all the way back up to redline, wahoo... but still just didn't have it's normal umph..

Since there was only about 15 minutes between my senior qual session and the novice race, about all I had time to do was check oil, put in gas, and check tire pressures. I still only made it to pre-grid about a minute before the 5 minute warning (normally if you show up after the 5 minute warning you are forced to go to the back of the grid). We qualified 3rd or 4th.. BUT NONE OF THAT MATTER. They grided us by first come first serve! Are you kidding me? So off to the back of the pack anyway (I think we started 20th or 21st).

The pace of the start was veerrrryyy slllllooowww (in a deep mellow tone). Maybe 35mph. When the green flag dropped I had room to mash it and start making my way through the field... but! Wait a sec, WTF? How are the Honda Civic and Integra accelerating with me? WHAT IS GOING ON! Then as I grab 4th gear I look down... pooh only .08mPa on the good ol' boost gauge. There goes that turbo, well this will be interesting.

It is a real bummer to feel like a mere mortal, and have to pass people the old fashioned way. But I learned a little about how to setup passes (how to use a run off of a corner to setup a brake zone pass) and how to keep momentum up. Corner exit onto the straightaway became even more important, and it was very obvious (without my normal hp) that I needed to work on that corner. The fairly stock integra's and RX-7 would pull me down the front straight! How crazy is that. All in all -- We must have been down 80 to 100hp...

Luckily the brakes on our cars are pretty solid, and I could out brake almost everyone. Even though Mission is crazy hard on brakes (no place to cool them off), our Raybestos ST-43 pads held up awesome. I did get them to fade towards the end of the sessions, but with a lap of reduced braking they would come back.

On to the big finish... about 20 minutes into the race a second gen RX-7 smashed into a barrier HARD! This was a very race prepped RX-7 with a tube frame front end, big tires, etc. Apparently his foot slipped off the brake and onto the gas, as he was aimed at a barrier. Must have hit the barrier at 60mph. It split the barrier in 2 pieces and moved it 10 fit. He also hit a softball sized rock 30 fit in the air and came down to smash into one of the safety crew trucks. On top of that he got the grass on fire! They red flagged the race, and we all stopped at the closest worker stations.

Just to validate that the turbo was toast, when I started the car back up I covered a 1/4 of the track in burnt oil smoke. The people in the stands must have thought I was on fire

After all was said and done, we finished 8th out of 22... while a disappointing result. It could have been worse with the broken turbo.

I probably could have raced on Sunday with the bum turbo, but after seeing how low the oil was (quart and half) after the race, I decided to pack it in for the weekend. Which turned out to be a real bummer, because it startd to rain while my senior group was sitting in pre-grid. The race was more of a slip and slide, drifting exhibition than a race The 600hp stock cars couldn't get any traction on slicks and their windshields kept fogging up... A fairly stock looking Integra wound up winning overall! We ,at the very least, would have had the chance for an overall win.. but shoulda, coulda, woulda seemed to be the theme of the weekend.

Once again I want to give a big thanks to our sponsors for supporting this addiction of mine:
Trackmaster - The Trackmaster GPS timing system again worked flawlessly and had our lap times with .008sec/lap this weekend! Very very impressive if you ask me. I'll post back later today or tomorrow with our charts for the weekend.

Wheeldude.com - We still don't have his wheels on the car yet, but they should arrive next week. I'll get some pictures up before the next race in August. I highly recommend checking out his selection of wheels if you are in the market.

Thanks again for following along. I'll get some pics up next week.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:31 AM   #4
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wow, i understand how it is to race on less power.... it sucks... at least you didnt get black flagged for smoking...

any new plans for the turbo? little more ummpghfffff?


great write up
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It actually wasn't puffing much smoke during the race. I dunno if that is because my exhaust exits under the rear axle toward the ground or what.

I've had an FP Green sitting on my work bench for a couple of months. This is probably my excuse to put it on. I just need to go get the supporting stuff. Hopefully run it up to 450 flywheel hp, and call it good. That would be a full 100 hp over the stage 2 setup.

Before I go slapping that stuff on though, I need to run through a compression check, leak down, and get the CEL read. Make sure the engine is healthy and the turbo being killed was just a coincidence... and not that a motor issue caused the turbo to fail.

Glad you enjoyed reading the write up.
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deff get it checked out, you know more than most what your car is doing. if you think somehitng is up, it probley is..


I am having weird oil pressure issues but only @ WOT... bad time to be dropping oil pressure....
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That's too bad about your turbo, Steve. I hope your engine isn't totally effed
I loved your write up, though. Keep us posted on your repairs & I'll see you in August at PIR!
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Thanks Grace.
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Hi All

Here are some of our graphs and data acquisition from Mission last weekend. The Trackmaster app is awesome. Allows you to send the images of your graphs very simply. Along with the Google Earth data I have shown in the past. Here are a few of our graphs from the weekend and another sample of the Google Earth data.

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Hey all,

Figured I would chime in with a quick update. What I thought was a bum turbo after the Mission race turned out to be a dead cylinder #4 (again). So we may be out of commision for a few races (hopefully not too long).

I got the engine out and finished tearing it down this week. Take a look at the piston from #4. Yes, they are forged pistons.

I picked up another block and need to get the other parts on order. While we are going through this I will put the bigger turbo and do the other mods at the same time.







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Since the engine is still down, and likely to be for at least another month... I figured I would post up some of the other lessons learned, just to keep this updated.

You will notice in the first race photos the wing angle of attack is very steep. While I was looking at some of the pics from the first race I started thinking that it just looked wrong. Especially compared to the other cars out there running the same type of wing. While I consider myself fairly techincally savy... I don't know much about the aerodynamics of 3D wings.

For the 2nd PIR race, I reduced the angle of attack. And because I didn't want to make a bunch of changes over the weekend and throw my comparative session to session data out the window, I left it in the lower position all weekend.

See the photos - Top is the wing at a steep angle of attack. Bottom is one step lower(flatter)





The adjustment to a slightly flatter angle, made a HUGE difference in handling. And I think the steeper angle was actually at a stall angle. With the wing slightly flatter, the car pushed terribly all weekend at PIR. Leading me to the conclusion that with the wing in the lower position, I was getting more rear downforce.

At our next race in Mission, to dial out the understeer we made some damper adjustments. Our Tein RA Circuit coilovers are only one-way adjustable, so I can not adjust the rebound and compression independently. I ran the rear to full hard and the fronts up to 3/4 (previously 1/2 on both axles). This made for an extremely fun car to drive (EVEN BEING DOWN 100hp due to the bad cylinder). The car was neutral to slightly loose.

As soon as the car wanted to get a little sideways, I could roll into the throttle and the car would pull itself back out straight. I was a little concerned while I was on course that I may be heating the front tires too much by doing this (increasing the tire pressure). BUT the front never started pushing, like normal when the tire pressures are too high.

Sure enough when I came off the track, the rears had about a pound of air pressure more than the fronts. Which is extremely unusual based on the old setup .. I would typically start the front 3 psi less than the rears, and still come off the track with 1-2psi more in the front.

NOW -- If only I could get the car back together, and get it to a track that I have a baseline of lap times for I could see if the adjustments made a improvement.

All our old lap time data is going to be thrown out the window though, considering the new turbo setup and increase in wheel/tire width. We should be 4 or 5 seconds faster at both Pacific and PIR.
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Hi All!

We're getting ramped up for the 2010 ICSCC season. We should be able to run the majority of the season, with the ultimate goal of winning the ST and SPM class championships. Our car will be very competitive and we are very excited to get back to the track.

I updated the first post with the 2010 schedule.

Also, exciting news from Clinton Racing. We are happy to announce the launch of our official website. www.ClintonRacing.com

Thanks to everyone for the continued support. We look forward to see you at the track this season.


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A quick update on our offseason.

Our new engine is almost reassembled. We should have it all back together this week and be ready to fire it up by next weekend. After a break in on the stock turbo we will be upgrading to a 3" FP green. Then we will be headed down to Surgeline so Tim Bailey and crew can work their magic.

The class (ST) we will be running this year is brand new for ICSCC. This is an awesome class for the STi. The basic premise for the class is that is meant to be a "bolt on" class. Most modifications are legal, with the restriction being that your weight-to-power ratio must be 10:1. The STi fits pretty easily with this requirement at 320whp and 3200lbs minimum race weight.

The other big news is that we have (thanks to Dan @ Wheeldude) upgraded to Rota DPT 17x9 wheels. Going from the 7.5" wide SDR's to the 9.0" DPT's winds up giving us almost an extra inch per wheel of tread width.

Between the added grip and the increased horsepower we should make significant in-roads on decreasing our lap times this season. Now it will be up to me to make it happen.

Stay tuned for our first track day recap -- But right now I'm not sure when that will be.
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exciting stuff. Ill totally keep an eye on this thread.

Good luck this season!
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Thanks!
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hmm, looks like Ill be back in town for the May 1st race. Ill make sure to stop by PR for a bit

what tires are you going to be running this season?
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awesome man, stop by and say hi.
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Good Luck in 2010 Clinton Racing!

Your write-up is awesome...
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good luck steve. Im thinking of running some races with conference. If I do Il stop by and say hi
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Awesome man. If you do let me know, we should try to pit close to each other.
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Whew! What a day! Nickrice20 and I just got back from the 6 hour ICSCC kart enduro at Apex Kart in Tumwater. This was the 2nd annual kart enduro as a fundraiser to benefit the volunteers that work at our races during the season. We (Conference) were able to $1800 for the workers fund. I really wish we could have done more, the volunteers are really the ones that make our events possible. We as drivers get to enjoy the fruits of the their labor.

I am stinkin exhausted. My arms, upper back, and shouldes are already feeling it... it ought to be a interesting couple of days. I was only able to stay in the kart for 60 minutes before my right arm just got to the point where it wouldn't work anymore. Karting is soo much more intense on the body than the nice comfort of power steering in the ol' STi.

Nick was a freakin Superman! We started him of with a 75 minute stint and then due our fumbled pit strategy we put him back in to finish out the last 35 minutes of the race. In the last 5 laps of the race he was turning laps just as fast as his first 20 minutes.... truly impressive!

We had based our pit stop strategy on being able to run the kart for 2 hours before pitting. Well that two hours turned out to be only an hour 45 minutes according to the race director at Apex. BUT everyone was only going to be able to get an hour and 45 minutes... so that's not the end of the world.

We started on the pole and Nick got us off to a great start. He jumped out to a good 5 to 10 kart length lead in the first 20 minutes or so.

Then we started to encounter issues. They had a stop box set up when entering the pits. Everyone had to stop in the box and then pull forward to do their stop/go, driver change, or kart change. On 3 of our stops we locked the brakes up and slid past the end of the stop box. Failing to stop in the box caused a 30 second penalty and then you are not allowed to complete whatever you intially came into the pits to do in the first place. Every time you slipped past the stop box essentially cost you 2 to 3 laps.

Our final lap count after 6 hours was 445 laps. The winning team finished with 453 laps. Our 3 penalties probably cost us at least a podium finish, but oh well thats racing (not to mention we still had a [email protected]#% load of fun!!). In the end we finished 6th out of 14 teams (2 laps behind 5th).

We may not have won the race, but we were at least the best looking team -- With our matching Tuxedo t-shirts. You know how those t-shirts work, they say we're formal but we like to party.

Nick anything to add?

Thanks for reading.
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I enjoyed reading through your adventures, but I am curious about something. As you have an '04 STi with the (comparatively) weaker 5x100 setup, and you track it obviously, have you ever experienced any pad knockback from your Brembos? Just curious.

Good luck with the 2010 season!
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I enjoyed reading through your adventures, but I am curious about something. As you have an '04 STi with the (comparatively) weaker 5x100 setup, and you track it obviously, have you ever experienced any pad knockback from your Brembos? Just curious.

Good luck with the 2010 season!
Oh for sure... but it's predictable. After a couple of laps you know where it is going to be an issue. I'll either reach over with my left foot and tap the pedal to square the pucks up or pump the pedal when I enter the brake zone. It looks kind of funny going down a straight to see my brake lights flicker real quickly. I think it is just as much of an issue on other cars as it is the STi... or at least no other drivers have complained about it.

It really only seems to be an issue when at the end of the straights. For slower braking zones or light braking zones it really doesn't seem to be a problem.

This season could be considerably different with the wider wheels and more hp... Brakes will probably creep up as the next weak link, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

Thanks for the well wishes.
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