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Old 05-05-2002, 01:05 PM   #1
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Arrow Interesting article in today's Newsday about HIDs

I'm not sure if anyone caught this or read this, but it was a very interesting article on HIDs. There isn't one thing I don't disagree with in it.

Article found here

Anybody agree, disagree?


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Old 05-05-2002, 01:41 PM   #2
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Misaimed headlights are a danger regardless if HID or regular, and there's more than enough of us aftermarket junkies that don't know how to properly install and aim lighting systems. I think that's a bigger danger than HID's.

Typically at night I'm highly sensitive to lighting conditions but all I notice about oncoming BMW's or other HID equiped vehicles is that they are in fact HID's because the beam is more intense but doesn't seem to introduce any more than normal glare except when cresting hills or at odd angles, however this is true of regular headlights as well.

I agree 100% on the height of headlights issues regarding trucks and SUV's, there are times when someone is behind me in a big truck and I can't help but think "Dumbass has his brights on" but he really doesn't.

*Shrug* The more important question is, if they do in fact introduce new headlight laws, what's that mean for people who had them in their vehicles before the law was created? Something tells me aftermarket folks are going to lose out there but they'd never make a BMW owner go back to the shop to get new lights.
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Old 05-05-2002, 01:52 PM   #3
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HID lights have been used in Europe for longer than in the USA and there isn't any controversy.

Part of the problem is American's don't take care of their cars. Lights go out of adjustment with time, just like a suspension, and need to be reaimed. But most Americans look at their car like a microwave.

I have HIDs on my BMW and no one has every flashed me or told me they where blinded. HIDs are brighter, but not by much, there are many Halogen lights as bright. The great thing about HID lights if the color and definition. The light is closer to sun light so it makes things easier to see and throws less shadows.

And because HIDs are still rare they stick out in traffic and get noticed, and people look right at them.

Also, all European cars have self-leveling headlights if they have HID.

1500 letters...that's about 0.02% of all drivers.

P.S. Foglights???????? Unless your laying gut down on the ground how can a fog light blind anyone. They point down and to the sides.
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Old 05-05-2002, 06:20 PM   #4
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Hey, she (the author) drives a Subaru!!!. I think HID's are very cool and usefull. I can see how they can be blinding but they don't seem to bother me. I mostly agree with the article and the letters are sent because most Americans don't know or are to lazy to properly take care of their car.
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Old 05-05-2002, 11:50 PM   #5
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In order for HID systems to be legal on vehicles sold in the USA, they must have an auto-leveling system installed. Basically, it's a balast system built onto the back end of the car, which aims the headlights down when necesary. The actual application in different cars is somewhat more advanced than my simple explanation *duh*.

The actual evidence can be misconstrued and re-rationalized to suit either side of the argument, but in reality, being able to see more of the road increases the chance that any dangers on that road will be seen sooner by the driver, allowing them more time to make the correct safety decision.

IMHO, as bright as any light source could possibly be, when you don't look directly at it, it doesn't bother you.

[stupid sarcasm] Hey...maybe they should make a law to block out the sun. It's the brighest light source on the planet, if enough people complained, the FSA could do something about it. [/stupid sarcasm]
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Old 05-06-2002, 01:51 AM   #6
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i have never notice that they are to bright and infact the blue seems to be less intense... i dont know about some people... i say we quit with life saving drugs and such, and let natural selection take its course... be strong or die!!! lights to bright... adapt!!!
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Old 05-06-2002, 02:10 AM   #7
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I don't mean to get off on a rant here but I'm always finding myself being partially blinded by SUVs. Particularly I really hate the Caddilac one, the "Escalade" Why would anyone want an enormous cadilac truck, who would want to take a cadilac off-roading! These people buy these huge trucks with 4WD and transfer cases to commute to work or drive their kids to school half the time, plus they have less stringent emmisions standerds..
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Old 05-06-2002, 09:59 AM   #8
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In the meantime, Engelman will just have to keep squinting as she pilots her Subaru, which has halogens. "They're not that bright but I can see where I'm going," she said.
Hmm but I have HIDeez on my subie and I can only say that I love em!

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Old 05-06-2002, 10:05 AM   #9
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Treekilla thinks that they are ok sometimes. He will be the judge. He doesnt need some stupid board keeping them off the road. Instead when some ******* in a car with horribly tuned HID's, he will turn on his 160 watt bulbs which are aimed right into there eyes.

Treekilla thinks that first we should go after the dumbass soccer mom suvs that drive with three sets of lights on during a clear night. They also get lights in there eyes as sign of protest.
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