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Old 02-26-2010, 08:27 AM   #1
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Default Honda's Concept Trike for the Urban Commuter , 3R-C Trike



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Honda's EV-N concept may have the visage of a throwback car from the 1960s, but the car company's new 3R-C looks like nothing less than a futuristic trike. The sleek three-wheeled, single-person vehicle is set to debut at the Geneva Motor Show next week as a zero-emission concept with a lithium-ion battery, Autoblog Green reports.

The 3R-C seems designed to address the single urban commuter, and unsurprisingly comes from Honda's Research and Design facility in Milan, Italy. Its clear canopy lowers over the driver's seat while parked, and is raised during operation to become a wind-shield for the rider. That's a bit of a shame, given how perfectly streamlined the vehicle looks with the canopy down.

Future Trike: Riding the Honda 3R-C Honda

Stability for the vehicle would come from the electric drivetrain sitting low in the chassis, and there's even a lockable "boot area" in front of the driver to provide storage for luggage. These concept vehicles won't enter production, but they provide some food for thought concerning the needs of future commuters winding through narrow streets or alleyways. And given global trends, it's safe to say that the cities of the world will only become more crowded in the near future. If you're not down with a regular bike or a full-blown car, perhaps an affordable single-seat vehicle might not be a bad alternative, unless GM's two-wheeled P.U.M.A. somehow takes off in a way that the Segway didn't.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:42 AM   #2
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I'm assuming from the rounded motorcycle tires that it is designed to lean into turns.

If so, sign me up. Want.
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Old 02-26-2010, 01:10 PM   #3
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I kind of want to like it, but the driving/sitting position just looks too high to me.........
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Old 02-26-2010, 06:57 PM   #4
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I'm assuming from the rounded motorcycle tires that it is designed to lean into turns.

If so, sign me up. Want.
I, too, want one, but only if it leans!

SilverSubaab: The rider is lower than on many motorcycles, the bike in my sig certainly included with it's 33.something" seat height. Then again, motorcycles lean in turns...
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Old 02-26-2010, 07:19 PM   #5
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That's pretty cool. I like how the glass seals it up when you aren't riding in it.
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Old 02-26-2010, 08:13 PM   #6
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I fail to see much advantage something like this would have over a similar powered motorcycle besides being more expensive, bigger, heavy, less efficient, and less fun. Then again, I know how to keep my balance after riding motorcycles since I was 7-8 years old... .
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I'd rock one. Make it go 55mph and give it 20 miles range and I'm there for my work commuter.
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Old 02-26-2010, 11:22 PM   #8
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I fail to see much advantage something like this would have over a similar powered motorcycle besides being more expensive, bigger, heavy, less efficient, and less fun. Then again, I know how to keep my balance after riding motorcycles since I was 7-8 years old... .
Potentially much, much more efficient. Aero on most motorcycles* blows goats, comparatively speaking, and then you have the whole electric bit that can also boost whole-system efficiency.

* tucked on a sportbike is simply bad. Upright on a dual-sport is horrendous. How horrendous? Try Cd > 0.70 from what I've read…
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Potentially much, much more efficient. Aero on most motorcycles* blows goats, comparatively speaking, and then you have the whole electric bit that can also boost whole-system efficiency.

* tucked on a sportbike is simply bad. Upright on a dual-sport is horrendous. How horrendous? Try Cd > 0.70 from what I've readů
That is nothing more than a design choice. There were bikes designed in the 60's that were much sleeker than bikes of today. All of the technology in that "trike" could be put in a smaller lighter 2-wheeler.
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I'm going to refrain from using any language too extreme because I've been drinking, but just because you're proficient at riding a motorcycle doesn't mean everyone on the planet it as well. This offers much better aerodynamics, plus is battery powered. It's a "sport bike" for everyone. I have a lot I'd like to say, but like I said, I've been drinking so I'll hold back.
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Old 02-27-2010, 12:25 AM   #11
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That is nothing more than a design choice. There were bikes designed in the 60's that were much sleeker than bikes of today. All of the technology in that "trike" could be put in a smaller lighter 2-wheeler.
Are you talking about streamliners and "feet forward motorcycles"? Those concepts generally don't let the rider put their feet down easily. Compared to hydraulic "training wheels" that retract at speed a third wheel seems like a cleaner design choice.
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Are you talking about streamliners and "feet forward motorcycles"? Those concepts generally don't let the rider put their feet down easily. Compared to hydraulic "training wheels" that retract at speed a third wheel seems like a cleaner design choice.
Basically, yes. I understand what you are saying about foot placement. The trike above looks to have a center of gravity similar to a Smart Car--three wheels+high center of gravity+fast turn=

For those enthusiastic about this concept, I assume you must already own one of these:

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/
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Basically, yes. I understand what you are saying about foot placement. The trike above looks to have a center of gravity similar to a Smart Car--three wheels+high center of gravity+fast turn=
.. but since it probably leans into corners...
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Basically, yes. I understand what you are saying about foot placement. The trike above looks to have a center of gravity similar to a Smart Car--three wheels+high center of gravity+fast turn=

For those enthusiastic about this concept, I assume you must already own one of these:

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/
The Can-Am Spyder is the worst of both worlds imo, possessing neither green cred nor handling. If it's a commuter vehicle like the proposed EV Honda I could accept less-than-entertaining handling if it doesn't lean, but for a pleasure vehicle like the Spyder I don't see a reason to compromise since I am still physically capable of holding a bike up at stoplights.
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.. but since it probably leans into corners...
Even if it doesn't it might be ok:


I'd still much rather see it lean like this, of course:


or this (note Valentino Rossi behind the wheel!):

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Sorry about my post last night but this is what I was trying to get at. Not everyone can or wants to ride a motorcycle. This design would not only make it easier for them to make different types of shells for, it would widen the consumer base. I don't think center of gravity is going to be too high. I'll bet the batteries are all on the base of the thing, at or under the axles, that would keep it planted. Another advantage I can see right now. You wouldn't want to leave your motorcycle parked outside when it's raining. With that design it wouldn't be an issue. Also keeping balance on slippery conditions wouldn't be a problem either. Like riding a motorcycle over train tracks, or on brick/cobble roads when it's raining.
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This looks really neat. It look like you sit in it so comparing it to bike might be a bit of a leap. I had a chance to ride the Can-Am Spyder last year and I wouldn't mind if my wife who has zero motorcycle riding experience were to get one so she could ride with me and not be laying on my back. My takeaway from riding the Spyder in comparison to the 3RC would be the trike layout. The Spyder was a bit more squirly in the long fast corners than I thought it would be. Without having my legs out to add extra weight to either side in a corner, I'd drive more conservatively. Overall, this looks cool!
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Forgot to say how it reminds me of the BugE

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