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Old 03-10-2010, 07:55 AM   #1
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Default Next Generation Mercedes S-Class with Plug-in Hybrid Technology Could get 81mpg

Mercedes-Benz Vision S 500 Plug-in Hybrid Concept

Electric-only range in excess of 20 miles

According to a recent report, the upcoming Mercedes S-Class Plug-in Hybrid could achieve 81 mpg in the European hybrid cycle.

In an interview with Car and Driver, Mercedes development director Dr. Thomas Weber said "Three years ago, everyone thought that there would only be small cars and that there would be no more large cars. But our plug-in concept demonstrated that an S-class could make 78 mpg (3.0 L/100km), so those questions stopped. With the next generation of S-class we are talking 81 mpg (2.9 L/100km), using a new-generation 3.0-liter V-6 gasoline engine-direct injection and piezo injectors-integrated with a 60-hp (44 kW) electric motor. In pure-electric mode, the car would have a range of just over 20 miles (32.2 km) at speeds of up to 68 mph (109 km/h). It is clear that we will have a plug-in hybrid in the next-generation S-class."

Besides talking the S-Class, Weber discussed the SLS AMG eDrive. He stated, "We have looked at an electric SLS because people don't use an SLS for long-distance driving - they use it on the weekend for fun. We think a range of 125 miles (201 km) is fine for this type of car. It's a start of a discussion of what the future of the sports car looks like.

Hybridization doesn't work because it adds additional weight and we don't feel that's right for a sports car. If we have to add weight, then using powerful alternative drivetrains makes sense: with 590 pound-feet (800 Nm) of torque from four wheel electric motors, driving the SLS is a sensational feeling, one without noise. We should continue with such ideas."

While these are notable achievements, Weber still sees several challenges. He commented that batteries have a low energy density (ten times worse than diesel or gasoline) and long charging times. He stated that batteries are "the perfect solution for the inner cities, but not for long distances or for customers who have just one car." Despite this, Weber said, "We will focus a lot of effort on developing affordable vehicles with batteries, but (we will have) plug-ins for the larger cars and fuel cells as range extenders."

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Old 03-12-2010, 12:07 AM   #2
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With all the traffic here, this wouldn't be a bad DD. Space, luxury, and you don't need to get gas that often, though a Bluetec with a 25 gal tank would probably be just as good - as long as you have something fun in the garage as well.
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Default CAFE Claims Another Victim: The Mercedes S-Class

If Automotive News’ [sub] dealer sources have heard right, then Daimler might sacrifice their S-Class on the altar of the almighty EPA and its newly announced CAFE standards.

According to dealers who have been briefed on the plans, all future S-class models — including high-performance AMG models — will come only hybridized. The S-class propelled by ICU only will be history. According to the Geheimplan, the switch would be made globally with the next-generation S class, due in Europe in 2013 and in North America a year later. Mercedes dealers shudder at the thought.

Says AN: “The idea is drawing fire from some U.S. dealers, who worry that hybrids are not perceived as true performers in the market.” The average S-Class customer is not all too concerned about gas mileage. The concern is at Daimler.

Two company sources told AN that the Board of Directors at Daimler likes the idea because it could help Mercedes-Benz reach strict European CO2 emissions standards and meet tougher corporate average fuel economy standards in the United States by mid-decade.
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MB just said that the AMGs would not be hybridized.
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