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Old 03-29-2017, 07:22 AM   #1
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Volkswagen in November provided an early look at an updated version of its seventh-generation Golf. Among the changes in store for the popular hatch is a refreshed exterior, a more advanced infotainment, a new dual-clutch transmission system and, in some models, extra power.

The Golf R is one of the models due to gain extra power. (Others include the GTI and e-Golf.)

VW is yet to confirm specifications for the United States but in other markets the updated Golf R’s turbocharged 2.0-liter inline-4 has been confirmed to deliver 305 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque. That’s up on the current model's 292 hp and 280 lb-ft.

The updated Golf R also benefits from a new 7-speed dual-clutch transmission instead of the current 6-speed. The DCT in combination with the extra power and torque sees the 0-62 mph acceleration time drop to 4.6 seconds, down from a current 4.9 seconds. A 6-speed manual remains standard. VW is yet to reveal how quick this option is but expect it to be a few tenths of a second slower than the DCT.

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Drive is still to all four wheels with either transmission.

Visual tweaks made to the car include new LED headlights and revised bumpers. Inside, the infotainment system is now offered in three sizes and includes the option of gesture control.

All updated Golf models get an enhanced suite of electric driver aids, as either standard or available. The driver aids include emergency braking with pedestrian detection, traffic jam assist, park assist, and even trailer assist.

Most of the updated Golf range arrives in showrooms in the latter part of 2017, as 2018 models. The only exception is the updated e-Golf which arrives in early 2017, as a 2017 model.
Volkswagen’s updated Golf R gets a power boost and subtle styling tweaks

Volkswagen’s updated Golf R gets a power boost and subtle styling tweaks

By Stephen Edelstein — December 23, 2016 7:37 AM
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Last month, Volkswagen unveiled an updated version of its bestselling Golf hatchback, and now the range-topping Golf R performance model is getting the same tweaks, plus more power.

The Golf R continues to use an uprated version of the EA888 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine fitted to the less-extreme GTI. But it now produces 305 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque, up from 292 hp and 280 lb-ft in the previous version. Power is sent to all four wheels through six-speed manual or DSG dual-clutch automated transmissions.

With the extra power, Volkswagen says the reinvigorated Golf R will do 0 to 62 mph in 4.6 seconds with the DSG transmission, an improvement of about 0.3 second over the previous version. Expect the acceleration time for the manual-transmission to drop from the current 5.3 seconds as well.

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Like other versions of the venerable hatchback, the updated Golf R also gets some styling changes. However, only true Golf experts will be able to spot the differences. Volkswagen says the grille and front fenders on all Golf models are new, and LED taillights are now standard across the board. The Golf wasn’t exactly a bad-looking car to begin with, so major styling changes weren’t really necessary.

The Golf R will probably get at least some of the new tech features previously announced for other Golf models. These include the Active Info Display that replaces the analog gauge cluster with a 12.3-inch digital display, and Discover Pro infotainment system, featuring a 9.2-inch touchscreen and gesture controls.

The rest of the updated Golf lineup will go on sale next year, with the Golf R likely following the more mainstream models. The Golf comes in many flavors, including the basic hatchback, the electric e-Golf, the Golf R and GTI performance models, and the Golf SportWagen and Alltrack wagons.
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Is this coming to the US for 2018? I thought VW models were typically one year behind in the US.

Since I'm currently eyeing one of these as my wrx replacement in a few years, I am glad the manual remains, and hoping that the manual keeps those "electric driver aids" at bay.
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Old 03-29-2017, 11:03 AM   #3
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In a way, I'm surprised that the R isn't taking sales away from the GTI. But then again, the R is more of a niche car.
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In a way, I'm surprised that the R isn't taking sales away from the GTI. But then again, the R is more of a niche car.
In Canada, it probably does. The R is priced very competitively up here.

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In a way, I'm surprised that the R isn't taking sales away from the GTI. But then again, the R is more of a niche car.
There is a significant price gap between the GTI & the R, and most people aren't hung up on AWD; I think it comes down to different strokes for different folks - Personally I have no interest in an FF car, so the GTI is just automotive background noise, hanging out with (in my mind) the focus ST, MS3 (rip) and believe it or not, corolla, civic and everyotherffeconoboxoutthere, because I have no interest in them. I know some of these FF cars can be/are quick around a track, I just have no interest in FF.
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In a way, I'm surprised that the R isn't taking sales away from the GTI. But then again, the R is more of a niche car.
Completely different price points in the US. The GTI you can get for thousands off MRSP and have your pick of many sitting on the lot. I could've gotten a nicely equipped GTI with the old PP for $24k. They were asking 42k for a loaded R or I could special order one. VW dealers treat the R like their own GT350 and play up how rare and special it is while charging you MSRP to order one from Germany. If the R was as easy to get as the GTI, it would be a completely different story. I'd definitely be driving one today.
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You can order one from the factory now?
For 2016, the dealers had no idea when they'd get an allocation.
So if you put a deposit down, you'd get notified when an R was inbound, but it was totally random what the trim level and color would be.

If this has changed for 2017, that's a good thing. Is there still no base model?
They're all coming in with 19" Pretorias w/DCC, etc?
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Completely different price points in the US. The GTI you can get for thousands off MRSP and have your pick of many sitting on the lot. I could've gotten a nicely equipped GTI with the old PP for $24k. They were asking 42k for a loaded R or I could special order one. VW dealers treat the R like their own GT350 and play up how rare and special it is while charging you MSRP to order one from Germany. If the R was as easy to get as the GTI, it would be a completely different story. I'd definitely be driving one today.
I get what you're saying. I didn't know there were that many incentives for the GTI. I got my R AT MSRP. Some claim to get it below on the interwebs, but Most got theirs a MSRP or higher (which I wouldn't pay for).
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For 2016, the dealers had no idea when they'd get an allocation.
So if you put a deposit down, you'd get notified when an R was inbound, but it was totally random what the trim level and color would be.

If this has changed for 2017, that's a good thing. Is there still no base model?
They're all coming in with 19" Pretorias w/DCC, etc?
Well, if you call signing a contract and putting down a deposit for the car at MSRP and waiting 3-5 months "ordering" then yes, you could special order the 2017 R. Or you could get the ridiculously loaded car on the lot.

Paying MSRP on a VW product vs. buying a Subaru well below invoice is such a no-brainer fiscally that it becomes really difficult to rationalize the R. Then you have these dealership games on top of that. The R is a really nice car but, it ain't that nice in my eyes. Nothing turns me off faster than dealing with douchey dealerships telling me how the car I'm looking at is some kind of snowflake. These aren't freaking Ferraris.

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The R is a really nice car but, it ain't that nice in my eyes.
Then why are you in a Golf R thread? it's not nice in your eyes, but you'll take the time to read a thread about something that isn't nice in your eyes, and waste your time?

I know why, because it competes with booby's STI.
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Then why are you in a Golf R thread? it's not nice in your eyes, but you'll take the time to read a thread about something that isn't nice in your eyes, and waste your time?

I know why, because it competes with booby's STI.
I don't know. It's like a girl you dated and considered marrying but there was some serious dealbreaker. Every once and a while you creep a little and check in.

Competes with the STI? No, the STI is dead to me. Was never in the running.
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I don't know. It's like a girl you dated and considered marrying but there was some serious dealbreaker. Every once and a while you creep a little and check in.

Competes with the STI? No, the STI is dead to me. Was never in the running.
Go drive the R man. It's nice.
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Rumored speculation in car mag articles last summer re 305hp / 295 lb ft plus new 7A dct transmission for US 2017 S3 = 292hp / 280 lb ft 6A 2017 S3 sitting on US dealer lots

Rumored speculation in car mag articles this spring re 305hp / 295 lb ft plus new 7A dct transmission for US 2017 golf r = ???? it is a mystery
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Go drive the R man. It's nice.
I've driven them, they are nice. Not $21,000 (12k price difference + 9k depreciation difference) nicer than a WRX limited. Even at that, if it wasn't for the dealer circle jerk with these cars... this really would've been the perfect car for me at this point in my life.
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If for some reason VW really wants to do me a solid, they would sell me an R wagon right meow.
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It's a great car. I really like mine a lot more than I thought I would as I typically burn through cars but I'm very satisfied with this car. It ticks more boxes than most cars I've owned and does almost everything very well.
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If the STi hatchback was still produced, that's the only car I would have considered. I didn't cross shop anything, not even a GTI. I wanted a Golf R.

I take the cynical approach to possessions. It's a car. Don't like it? Time to sell.
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It's a great car. I really like mine a lot more than I thought I would as I typically burn through cars but I'm very satisfied with this car. It ticks more boxes than most cars I've owned and does almost everything very well.
It's a Golf. That's what they do
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I am currently waiting for more info on the 2018 model. I do hope we get most of the stuff that was revealed at Geneva. Also curious what type of Performance Package the US will get.

Will be buying a car this year, the Golf R and Civic Type R are the two cars I am waiting for and hoping to test drive.
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I've driven them, they are nice. Not $21,000 (12k price difference + 9k depreciation difference) nicer than a WRX limited. Even at that, if it wasn't for the dealer circle jerk with these cars... this really would've been the perfect car for me at this point in my life.
The circle jerk has happened to me on the R and STI for me....while for the GTI and WRX they behaved alright. I eventually settled on the GTI because of the incentives and out the door price. Depreciation will come back to bite me I know but for now I'm enjoying the car.
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The circle jerk has happened to me on the R and STI for me....while for the GTI and WRX they behaved alright. I eventually settled on the GTI because of the incentives and out the door price. Depreciation will come back to bite me I know but for now I'm enjoying the car.
You bought with incentives. You should be fine on resale. No incentives you be getting f'd.
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Don't blame the R specifically for your dealership experience, buying mine was not a problem and it was a first allotment 2016 (it's gotten easier and more flexible since.) The only thing I'm bitter about was selling my 2012 Golf TDI to a friend of mine one day before the settlement cutoff date.



I won't argue on absolute value but it's a significantly more refined vehicle and better driver experience than any of the current Impreza variants.

If it weren't for production volume of GTI vs R the Golf pricing would be in line all the way through. The MSRP on a loaded up GTI is not far off from a base R. Honestly these days the STI's premium over the WRX is harder to justify than the R's premium over the GTI.
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If it weren't for production volume of GTI vs R the Golf pricing would be in line all the way through. The MSRP on a loaded up GTI is not far off from a base R. Honestly these days the STI's premium over the WRX is harder to justify than the R's premium over the GTI.
That would be accurate if the base R existed anymore. They force everything down your throat now and put the starting price at like $39,500. Loaded Autobahn GTI with discounts can be had just under 30k in most markets. Still talking about a 10k difference for AWD, and a tad more power. Interiors are virtually identical on the autobahn and R.
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