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Old 06-20-2002, 11:31 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Endless CCX brake pads

After ~ 5,000 miles w/ these pads up front, I'm comfortable in reccomending them for someone looking for a streetable pad w/ intentions of some nonstreet applications ie track days, canyon runs, autox.

Downside- expensive, close to a 200 dollar bill. They dust- not excessively, but more than stock

Upside- do not excessively dust, no squeal- very quiet, good cold bite-better yet when warmed slightly, thus far (knock on wood) appear to be rotor friendly, thus far (knock on wood again) pads appear to be wearing well

I'm running these w/ oe calipers/rotors (have upgraded lines/fluid).

These may be a little over kill for strictly street applications- there are more reasonably priced alternatives. If your likes take you to the track occasionaly, find yourself running canyons/mountains frequently or maybe a autox junkie- then these pads would probably be worth considering.

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Old 06-24-2002, 04:28 AM   #2
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Hi Big Sky,

Thanks for the info... where did you purchase these? I'm currently looking for pads for my 6 week old WRX.

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Old 06-24-2002, 02:13 PM   #3
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I got mine from Dan at godspeed.com. They're pricey, but by all accounts thus far- worth it. Also look at the NA-S's, that was what I originally was looking at for the fronts, but they were backordered. I understand they are now available. If track days are not in your equation the NA-S's would definitely be worth considering.

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Old 11-15-2007, 10:51 PM   #4
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Default My Review of CCX, SSS, and Brembo conversion

I also have the endless CCX pads installed, but on the STi Brembo front and rear brakes that I put in when I did my engine swap. My experience, compared the the stock and mostly worn pads that came out was:
1. The pads bite better than the stock pads (seemingly a lot better, this can likely be attributed to the worn stock pads I was comparing against)
2. The brakes are noticeably easier to modulate with these pads on
3. These pads dust much less than the stock pads
4. These pads are quieter than the stock pads on heavy braking
5. These pads, even after removing and reinstalling and reapplying anti-squeal, are noisier when stopping or turning, or reversing at low speeds with light brake application
6. No fade detectable by me in my application, which is only street and spirited driving

Overall, compared to the stock pads, I like these more, but I was a bit dissapointed, and here is why: I used to have the 4 pot front and 2 pot rear subaru brakes. When I went from the stock compound on those (I used the stock pads from new, for about 20000 kms) to the endless SSS pads, I noticed MAJOR improvements. In that case I noticed:
1. The pads bite much better than stock, night and day difference. The difference was more than going from the stock brembo pads to endless CCX.
2. The modulation on these pads is amazing. Even with the stock balance, it was easy to initiate a brake drift (22mm front and rear sway, ALK, Camber caster plates to max caster, -3 front camber, -2 rear camber, 0 toe, Whiteline Group4 coilovers, cusco v2 brace, front and rear strut bars we installed on the car, engine stock except for exhaust mods)
3. The pads dust slightly more than stock, not a major issue
4. These pads are super silent, I NEVER heard a squeal from them either on heavy or light braking.
5. Much less fade then stock, but fade would still occur when running the car VERY hard (since I am mainly street, this is was very infrequent).

So why did I change to Brembo's? Because I did an engine swap and swapping brembo onto the rear was easier, and I got the Brembo's for a really low price.

Now, for anyone considering Brembo's, consider the following:
1. Unsprung weight is increased noticeable, I can feel the difference on rough roads of brembo vs. stock (when I first did the engine swap, I kept 4pot subaru brakes on the front instead of the brembo's, the car handled very nice, their was a noticeble change in ride quality, and also acceleration, when I switch to the front Brembo's
2. Wheel fitiment is a problem. I initially ran my 51 offset SSR GT2's with 8mm spacers for get them to fit (7mm didn't give adequate clearance), this cause minor torque steer, and some tramlining. Without installing any spacers on the rear, this seemed to reduce understeer. Another change was the added bump steer with this setup. I ran extended studs in the front with the spacers, so it was a safe setup, but I didn't like the steering feel, and the wheels needed to be torqued on carefully, or the balance would feel slightly off on the highway (due to non-hubcentric spacers?). I looked into the cost of better spacers, and decided it would be cheaper to get v7 STi wheels from Hong Kong (got the set for about 600 US, that is the going price for these there). With the V7 rims on, unsprung weight increased a minor amount (changing brakes added much more unsprung weight than changing rims), and performance definitely felt much better. I figure by the time I sell my SSRs and my 4pot/2pot setup, the Brembo swap will have cost me almost nothing.
3. Noise! The Brembo's, even with the stock pads, make some squealing noises. Greasing a lot can temporarily solve the problem, downgrading the pads might help too, but that is hard to do even if you wanted to. The Endless SSS pads are not even available for Brembo's, so I have not been able to completely resolve this issue
4. Dust: With the stock pads, there is a lot of dust, changing to aftermarket pads is an easy resolution to this issue
5. Cost: I keep hearing that Brembo's are expensive. It seems pretty easy to get a set for about 1500 US, for those of us lucky enough to have the factory 4pots, we can offset this cost, however, even then, you may need to buy new wheels. I guess Brembo's are still a bit expensive.

Overall, I only recommend Brembo's if you are seeing fade with the stock brakes, for many people, the 4pot, 2pot would be a better choice, they are the equal of the Brembo's for pedal feel if you have nice pads, and wheel fitiment and weight specs are much better. Many other brake kits have knockback or other pedal feel problems, so for those driving on the street, I suggest sticking to the OEM parts instead. If doing an engine swap, you will also find that with the right rotors, 2pot subaru calipers can be used on the rear.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:34 PM   #5
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I had these on my 240sx with skyline brake conversion...

Greatly reduce stopping distance when warm
No Fade
Decent Dust (after you own them for a little bit)
Squeal like a mother****er when they are cold (once again, after you own em for a little bit)

I bought them in while in Japan, and 200 is cheap for them if you got front and rear. I payed 300ish for front and rear at KTS outside of Tokyo.

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