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Old 09-20-2012, 02:30 PM   #3001
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but seriosuly, whats planned next ben. i'm gonna live through you and rsutton since i'm done modding until the new car comes in.
As long as you stick around even when you don't have the car anymore.

I like voting on Ben's next mod. I say StreetGlow and more stickers. Those are always good for some more whp.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:31 PM   #3002
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CF driveshaft is tempting. I've thought of it. A bit spendy for the small gains I think I'd see.

Cage is not going to happen. This is a daily driver that I pick up my daughter in every day.

I had coilovers and didn't like them. I doubt I'll be going back.

Race seats have been considered, but it wouldn't make sense without harnesses, and wouldn't really be great for street use. Maybe if I tracked the car more.

I like my hood I have the stock one sitting in a box. I have considered putting that back on and trying to make my car look like a completely stock WRX...
while you try to make yours look stock ship me that hood. lol

radiator shroud and alternator cover? some dress up stuff

STi brakes?

btw my KWs dont ride ANYTHING like my other coils. my wife was stunned at how good the car felt, she even commented it was better than stock and better than her 2011 jetta...lol just fyi.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:31 PM   #3003
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As long as you stick around even when you don't have the car anymore.

I like voting on Ben's next mod. I say StreetGlow and more stickers. Those are always good for some more whp.
best idea yet.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:32 PM   #3004
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Flip switch or push button would be fun, but that's not really something I'd spend time/money on. Especially with my cool flip key


I have stock heads. I don't know that I would want cams on this turbo. Maybe with a larger setup.

Rotated manifold would be cool. I wouldn't mind faster spool. Doesn't work so well with the offset, plastic manifold though, so I'd probably have to swap.

I have the GrimmSpeed crosspipe right now, but a real header would be a good option.

I'm also getting to the point of running out of fuel, so I might have to do some work in that regard if I ever want more power. I'm not really looking forward to that though.
maxwell power services actually wrote about how a PnP crosse pipe might actually hurt our cars, so real headers would be awesome. i personally think you should go with EL. as much i love rumble, i love TQ even more go with some nice full race EL's omg or jsut **** it got with a fullrace twinscroll setup. THE THINGS I WOULD DO FOR THAT. seriosuly, who do i have to kill...

as for heads, its not a BAD idea as you'll be able to rev that baby real high but i dont think the 20g would be really benefiting from you going up to 8-9k? time for a 30r?

seats, meh. car is a DD and honestly, brides and all those show seats are stupid uncomfortable. spraco and recaro speedster CS are so nice but $$ and idk if you have heated seats, but that would be a big no no for me to lose when switching seats.

uh...i personally think you should get tint. i HATE the fishbowl look.

and lastly i vote for more hookers and cocaine. all in favor? #winning.



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As long as you stick around even when you don't have the car anymore.

I like voting on Ben's next mod. I say StreetGlow and more stickers. Those are always good for some more whp.
i'll stick around, i'll be doing my own thing in a brz, time to spec that bitch none of this form>function **** that everyone is doing to the poor car. killing its hadnling with wheels it doesn't have balls to turn and rubber that can't even use to it's full potential.



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while you try to make yours look stock ship me that hood. lol

radiator shroud and alternator cover? some dress up stuff

STi brakes?

btw my KWs dont ride ANYTHING like my other coils. my wife was stunned at how good the car felt, she even commented it was better than stock and better than her 2011 jetta...lol just fyi.
i'm up in the air for kw v3's for the brz when it comes, the fact that it doesn't come with tophats is such a killer for me and idk why.

brakes could work but honestly, for a DD SS lines, good fluid and atleast HPS pads are great.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:37 PM   #3005
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btw my KWs dont ride ANYTHING like my other coils. my wife was stunned at how good the car felt, she even commented it was better than stock and better than her 2011 jetta...lol just fyi.
My wife said the same thing about my Tarmac 2's in relation to stock and the Bilstein/RCE yellow setup.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:40 PM   #3006
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I say a nice big brake kit and some carbon fiber ducts for good measure.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:43 PM   #3007
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Steering wheel. Trust me.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:44 PM   #3008
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As long as you stick around even when you don't have the car anymore.

I like voting on Ben's next mod. I say StreetGlow and more stickers. Those are always good for some more whp.
+ 1,000,000,000


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Derek will probably bust in and start saying things I've told him, cause that's what he does
I resemble that remark! Fine JERK, I'm taking my ball and going home.

But really, put your OEM hood back on. The one you have was not taken care of and the rest of your paint looks sooooooooo much better than that swirled hood. I think he used to wash it with sand paper.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:55 PM   #3009
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hardwire the pump and get a FPR.

New 10cm hotside?

Rotated IM wouldn't even move spool as much as it would change response, if it works how I figure volumetric changes translate into the butt dyno.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:11 PM   #3010
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Rear tow hook! How's that coming anyways?

I agree on the wheel, or maybe some other interior something? Keeping stock appearance keeps you pretty limited on the outside
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:24 PM   #3011
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I'm also getting to the point of running out of fuel, so I might have to do some work in that regard if I ever want more power. I'm not really looking forward to that though.
Just now going through this..fuel system overhaul..it's expensive and irritating.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:09 PM   #3012
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Full race twinscroll header =P (then get the EFR turbo 7163? When it comes out, then I'll know where I'm going with mine haha beta tester

Carbon fiber driveshaft. Less rotating mass is always good for response

Big brake kit (if you start tracking more)

Reversed cosworth intake manifold and heads and cams when you do the turbo
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:28 PM   #3013
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while you try to make yours look stock ship me that hood. lol

radiator shroud and alternator cover? some dress up stuff

STi brakes?

btw my KWs dont ride ANYTHING like my other coils. my wife was stunned at how good the car felt, she even commented it was better than stock and better than her 2011 jetta...lol just fyi.
Not interested in dress up. Brakes have been considered, but I'm not sure I need them for the minimal track use I do. If I saw a killer deal I might scoop them up though.

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maxwell power services actually wrote about how a PnP crosse pipe might actually hurt our cars, so real headers would be awesome. i personally think you should go with EL. as much i love rumble, i love TQ even more go with some nice full race EL's omg or jsut **** it got with a fullrace twinscroll setup. THE THINGS I WOULD DO FOR THAT. seriosuly, who do i have to kill...

as for heads, its not a BAD idea as you'll be able to rev that baby real high but i dont think the 20g would be really benefiting from you going up to 8-9k? time for a 30r?

seats, meh. car is a DD and honestly, brides and all those show seats are stupid uncomfortable. spraco and recaro speedster CS are so nice but $$ and idk if you have heated seats, but that would be a big no no for me to lose when switching seats.

uh...i personally think you should get tint. i HATE the fishbowl look.

brakes could work but honestly, for a DD SS lines, good fluid and atleast HPS pads are great.
That comment on PnP headers and crosspipe is funny. I saw that one. Nothing to back it up. I love blanket statements like that. I don't really buy it. I do think real headers would be nice. I'd go EL for sure. I'm on the fence if I should get headers now, or wait for if I go rotated. If I buy headers now and then go rotated in a few months, it could be a waste.

Heads wouldn't benefit me on my current turbo I don't think. Power is already falling off fast by 7k. My motor isn't really built to spin up to 9k anyways. If I get a bigger turbo, it would probably be larger than a GT30R because that's nearly what I have now.

I consider getting tint nearly every time I drive my car. That has a good chance of happening. Unfortunately MN has the worst tint laws in the country (50% max front and rear).

I have SS lines, ATE fluid, GS MC brace and StopTech pads, so my brakes are decently set up. The pads aren't really a track aggressive pad, but they're good on the street, and better than HPS's.

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My wife said the same thing about my Tarmac 2's in relation to stock and the Bilstein/RCE yellow setup.
There's really only so much you can do with a basic spring/damper from a physics point of view. I find it hard to believe it would be any crazy change. I've really never felt a coilover that seemed "soft" or "comfortable" compared to what I have now.

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I say a nice big brake kit and some carbon fiber ducts for good measure.
These would be good ideas for more track time. They are tempting.

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Steering wheel. Trust me.
Yes, I knew you would say this. I want one. But I don't know....

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But really, put your OEM hood back on. The one you have was not taken care of and the rest of your paint looks sooooooooo much better than that swirled hood. I think he used to wash it with sand paper.
I can promise that my stock hood won't look much better. I'm sure it has more chips than the current one. Swirls might be a little better, but swirls really have never bothered me.

I really loathe non-functional hoods though. And having airflow behind the FMIC is going to severely hinder any flow through it due to the lack of a pressure differential. I suppose it probably isn't the end of the world, but it's not going to help.

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hardwire the pump and get a FPR.

New 10cm hotside?

Rotated IM wouldn't even move spool as much as it would change response, if it works how I figure volumetric changes translate into the butt dyno.
I'm planning on hardwiring the pump. Then a FPR or maybe Boost-a-Pump next.

10cm hotside and a Dom1.5 compressor wheel might be nice upgrades. Seems like a lot of work/cost/downtime for such a small gain though.

That's what I meant about the rotated manifold. Would probably feel a lot better. But it would be a bit spendy.

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Rear tow hook! How's that coming anyways?

I agree on the wheel, or maybe some other interior something? Keeping stock appearance keeps you pretty limited on the outside
Tow hook, yes! Still want that. No real progress lately.

I don't really care about my interior. Seems nice enough. The wheel does seem like it would be nice. If it was $200 I'd probably have one now. $400-500 is just so spendy.

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Just now going through this..fuel system overhaul..it's expensive and irritating.
Yes, I saw that. I don't plan on ever doing a surge tank in the cabin. I'd rather buy the dual pump hanger for $500. But I don't really want to do that either.

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Full race twinscroll header =P (then get the EFR turbo 7163? When it comes out, then I'll know where I'm going with mine haha beta tester

Carbon fiber driveshaft. Less rotating mass is always good for response

Big brake kit (if you start tracking more)

Reversed cosworth intake manifold and heads and cams when you do the turbo
That FR EFR setup looks awesome. But it's extremely expensive to get the same power I have now and a wider powerband. If I went rotated it would probably be a Fobia setup.

Driveshaft, again, would be nice, but spendy.

Brakes, yep if I do more track they'll be high on the list.

Manifold, headwork, cams, turbo is like a $10k bill. That I'll have to think about, haha.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:34 PM   #3014
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Bummer, I think I'm gonna try to see if I can rig something with my old mazda tow hook if I can find it just for grins and testing.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:54 PM   #3015
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We looked into the dual pump hanger, but it would've permitted little room for growth if I ever switched to a more powerful setup, which is the intention.

The surge with dual pumps isn't even the expensive part, it's all of the Teflon lines and AN fittings etc that add up.
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:01 PM   #3016
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Talk to full race about a rotated EFR as that's the only way I would go. Stock location blows

You can offset the cost by selling your old parts.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:37 PM   #3017
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We looked into the dual pump hanger, but it would've permitted little room for growth if I ever switched to a more powerful setup, which is the intention.

The surge with dual pumps isn't even the expensive part, it's all of the Teflon lines and AN fittings etc that add up.
I'm surprised the dual pump setup couldn't keep up. I figured it would be good for quite a bit of power. I know the lines are spendy, that's why I hate to do it at all. I really don't want a surge tank or lines in the passenger compartment anyways. I'm surprised your pump wouldn't keep past 20psi. I'm at 25psi at redline on E85 and my Walbro is still (barely) keeping up.

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Talk to full race about a rotated EFR as that's the only way I would go. Stock location blows

You can offset the cost by selling your old parts.
I agree that rotated is ideal. I'm not interested in paying FR's prices though. Fobia will do a custom setup for a fraction of the cost. He'll do remote mount or other exciting things too He's plenty of setups in the 600-700WHP range.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:51 PM   #3018
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The surge tank and dual pumps that we have coming will just barely (by centimeters) fit in the spare tire area. No interference with the cargo space, but me thinks I might cut out a space for a plexi-plate over top of them for my viewing pleasure..

Any idea what pumps you would be going with on the dual hanger setup?
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:14 PM   #3019
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Fitting into the spare tire well would be a good option but I really just don't want fuel lines and tanks in the passenger area in case of an accident and possible fire. For the dual dual pumps I was thinking that two Walbros would be plenty. Do they not flow double what a single would flow?
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:22 PM   #3020
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Fobia? Link me captain
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:39 PM   #3021
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Fitting into the spare tire well would be a good option but I really just don't want fuel lines and tanks in the passenger area in case of an accident and possible fire. For the dual dual pumps I was thinking that two Walbros would be plenty. Do they not flow double what a single would flow?
Currently looking into options as far as making the hatch mount surge unit a bit safer, but the options are definitely limited..

As far as the flow of dual pumps goes, from what I understand of pump setups following last weeks hiccup and the lengthy discussion on different setups that followed, theres a couple of variables. One being how the pumps are aligned, having two pumps does not necessarily mean your flow will be double what it would be with one pump. Some people use a large pump with a slightly smaller pump as a limiter from what I've been reading. It appears to depend entirely on how the pumps are arranged and wired as to when each pump works and weather or not one is limiting/influencing the other. Didn't look too heavily into the actual mechanics of the dual pump hanger, just enough to know that it would provide a solution good for the current power goals, but maybe not enough flow for future plans. I would rather do it right once, enter the surge tank/dual 044's..
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:53 PM   #3022
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Fobia? Link me captain
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He's local and he's done plenty of pretty insane setups. Here are a few.

Fog light mount 2.65L. Did 701WHP on the local Mustang dyno.





Here's one of his newer projects. Twin turbo



This is a "standard" rotated setup he did. 9 second street car.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2373009

Here's another one of the fog light mounted ones. Another 9 second street car.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...0#post37486230
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:37 AM   #3023
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The next logical mod for your car is brakes. You, obviously, do goto the track sometimes so you would get some good use out of them. Find a deal on a used setup, like Rob did, and your good to go. I think going for more power than you have now will really start to limit the everyday drivability of your car.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:59 AM   #3024
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Well, you all suck at voting, but here's the tally so far. Looks like brakes are in the lead. I'm still open to more voting. Don't feel like you need to come up with unique ideas. That kind of defeats the purpose of voting, lol.

I changed the font to note which ones I'm actually considering. Here is the key:

Bold: Very likely to do within the next few months
Italic: Strongly considering. Possibly within 1 year
Normal: Thought about it, but not high on my list
Strike: Not going to happen

(4) Brakes
(3) Cams
(2) Rotate Intake Manifold
(2) Headers
(2) CF Drive Shaft
(2) Coilovers
(2) Stock Hood
(2) Street Glow
(2) More Stickers
(2) Twinscroll Rotated Turbo
(2) Steering Wheel
(1) Flip Switch Ignition
(1) Half Cage
(1) Race Seats
(1) Rad Shroud and Alt Cover
(1) Tint
(1) Hookers and Blow
(1) Hard Wire FP and FPR
(1) New 10cm Hot Side
(1) Rear Tow Hook
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I'm in for a steering wheel. Followed closely by headers.
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