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Old 10-26-2016, 01:08 PM   #1
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Default Subaru recalls 4 models; turbo air pump can catch fire

Noooooo! I hope my 2011 WRX isnt affected. I wish i could have them give me a new pump and ill install it myself. Im not trying to drop my car off for service.

"The recall covers certain 2007 to 2009 Legacy and Outback vehicles, some 2008 to 2014 Imprezas and certain 2009 to 2013 Foresters. All the cars and SUVs have turbocharged engines."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/26/subar...atch-fire.html
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Old 10-26-2016, 04:04 PM   #2
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Had this exact same problem happen to my 09 wrx. Had Turn in Concepts remove the piece of ****.
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Old 10-26-2016, 05:53 PM   #3
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Mine blew out a few months ago. Never shut off on one morning drive. I pulled over about a mile later when it was safe and pulled the fuse. The damn thing kept running even after I turned off the car and removed the key. It melted/blew out a portion of the plastic housing on the pump, then started throwing CELs... not the valve open/shut CELs, just one for the air pump. I can't imagine what would have happened if my wife were driving, my car would likely would be a pile of ash right now.

Since my valves were still shut, I just disabled the CEL's via Tactrix and pulled the fuses. I wonder if they'll replace my air pump given that it failed due to this relay issue. I guess I'll turn the CEL's back on and bring it in and see what they say...
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Old 10-26-2016, 06:21 PM   #4
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Stupid air pump curse
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Old 10-26-2016, 06:35 PM   #5
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what's a turbo air pump?
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Old 10-26-2016, 06:43 PM   #6
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It's not a "turbo air pump". It's the secondary air pump. The AP author obviously has zero clue what they're talking about. It pushes air into the exhaust to induce combustion in the exhaust and raise the temp of the catalytic converter faster during cold-starts. At least that's what I've been able to gather through my research.
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Old 10-26-2016, 06:54 PM   #7
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There is nothing wrong the with air pumps, the problem is with the relay that controls the pump.
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Old 10-26-2016, 07:22 PM   #8
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There is nothing wrong the with air pumps, the problem is with the relay that controls the pump.
When the relay goes bad, it ruins the pump... ask me how I know...

So while a car that hasn't had any issues thus far would only receive a new relay, a car with a relay that has already failed in theory should get a new pump... at least that's what I'm hoping.
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Old 10-26-2016, 07:38 PM   #9
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If your pump caught fire or melted, you'll get a new "same pump" and a new "different relay".

If the pump is okay, you'll just get a relay.

Its not like they have a "different pump" to install.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:31 PM   #10
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Sucks when it's the $.50 parts that fail and f it all up.

In '06 my new '06 Impreza Outback Sport puked out it's coolant leaving me stranded on the side of the road twice... Dealer said the car is fine and they couldn't recreate the issue. I told them you might want to try harder because if it happens again you're buying the car back and I'll go buy a Honda. Next day they told me a tech spent a few hours driving on the interstate and it finally happened. It was a sticky thermostat.
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:32 AM   #11
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A few months ago this relay failed on my 09 WRX. I got a CEL on start-up, and the pump continued to run when I shut the car off. I had to rush to disconnect the battery before the pump burned out (it was HOT after about 30 seconds).

I discovered that tapping/pulling/pushing on the relay in the fuse box temporarily fixed it and allowed me start the car without a CEL until at least the next start-up. I repeated this procedure a few times until I bought a relay at Subaru and haven't had the issue again so far.
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Old 10-27-2016, 07:48 AM   #12
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I hope they give us a option to install the relay our self. I dont want to leave my car with them for a day and have one of the techs take my car for a joy ride lol.
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Old 10-27-2016, 11:14 AM   #13
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I hope they give us a option to install the relay our self. I dont want to leave my car with them for a day and have one of the techs take my car for a joy ride lol.
I'm right there with you. I have had some bad experience with dealer mechanics.

The car is already modded a good bit, I'd rather do the service myself or just delete the pump altogether.
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:33 PM   #14
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I hope they give us a option to install the relay our self. I dont want to leave my car with them for a day and have one of the techs take my car for a joy ride lol.


I'm sure they won't require you to drop your car off for a whole day. Chances are, they won't even drive the car out of the spot you parked it in... It'll be a 15 minute service.
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:53 PM   #15
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I'm sure they won't require you to drop your car off for a whole day. Chances are, they won't even drive the car out of the spot you parked it in... It'll be a 15 minute service.
trust me, they're going to ask to drop the car off for at least 1/2 the day unless you're best friends with the service manager.
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Old 10-27-2016, 01:23 PM   #16
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More details about this WTM‐73 Secondary Air Injection Pump Relay recall, including images of documents which Subaru has submitted to NHTSA, can be found at:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/..._ids=16V738000

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Old 10-27-2016, 02:05 PM   #17
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Subaru in Japan started recalling for this a while ago. Don't know why it's taking America so long. Had mine replaced recently. It took them an hour to replace...
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Old 10-28-2016, 01:54 AM   #18
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I fell better off having had the entire system removed and thrown in the trash.
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Old 10-28-2016, 02:19 AM   #19
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I fell better off having had the entire system removed and thrown in the trash.
You don't have emissions testing in Indiana?
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Old 10-28-2016, 01:44 PM   #20
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trust me, they're going to ask to drop the car off for at least 1/2 the day unless you're best friends with the service manager.
Then you need to find a new dealership... when I took my car in for the brake line corrosion issue (twice), it was about a 1-1/2 hour visit. Drop car off, sit down, have a coffee, do some work, car's done. I sat by the window and saw them drive it from the parking spot, to the garage, and back to a parking spot. Thinking that a tech is going to get approval to drive a car around after switching a relay... well it sounds like you're a bit too paranoid. I have a cheap tin-foil hat you might be interested in.
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Old 10-28-2016, 01:46 PM   #21
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You don't have emissions testing in Indiana?
emissions testing...

I love that WA doesn't require any emissions testing on cars newer than 2009...
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Old 10-28-2016, 01:48 PM   #22
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You don't have emissions testing in Indiana?

Emissions tests are so sporadic throughout the country. Here in PA we have it in one county but not another.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:17 AM   #23
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Has anybody received the recall notice by mail or has anybody have had it done already?
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Subaru has not sent out letters yet.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:32 AM   #25
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Thanks Art ! I really just want to buy a replacement relay from an auto store and do it myself instead of driving 1 hour each way to dealership.
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