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Old 02-19-2016, 11:12 AM   #1
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Default Best Oil & Filter for 2012 Impreza 2.0i?

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(Sorry if this thread has been created prior, I tried to search for one but could not find one... So created this one...)

But...

I own a 2012, Impreza HB & I USED TO USE, Mobile 1 advanced Oil and Filter...

After long research, I've come to realize that oil really sucks...

So I'd like to know what others are using and get a feel or possibly try what others are using if they are gaining better/less consumption & performance.
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Old 02-19-2016, 11:22 AM   #2
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I hate to oversimplify here but oil is oil. Ive used a few with the EXACT same results as Mobil 1. That is, consumption wise.

And you really cant go wrong with the blue subaru oil filter unless there isnt a dealership nearby.
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Old 02-19-2016, 11:43 AM   #3
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I hear you. I've done LOTS of research and also came across some forums that frown upon the blue oil filters and would much rather the black one, they once use to use.

According to some experiment results, the filtration system on the blue isn't really the best and it's just a fram filter with a Subaru cover/logo on it.
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Old 02-19-2016, 11:59 AM   #4
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While I am not a fan of the blue filters as they are made by Fram and are paper, I run them. Only reason is because Purolator hasn't made one that doesn't leak.
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Old 02-19-2016, 01:32 PM   #5
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Interesting.

So the Puro's leak?

Which oil do you use? @Revin
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Old 02-19-2016, 03:05 PM   #6
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Pennzoil platinum and a wix filter is what I use.
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Old 02-19-2016, 03:14 PM   #7
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Pennzoil platinum and a wix filter is what I use.
Which WIX filter? And can they be found locally, AutoZone/Advance Auto or one of those products you need to special order online or something?

I'm struggling to find the "Toyko Roki" filters... Seems they do not exist anymore lol...

Amazon and Ebay only sale the OEM Part Number(s) 15208AA15A oil filter.
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Old 02-19-2016, 03:34 PM   #8
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http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/Par...x?Part=1870865

Found this.


Part Number: 57055
UPC Number: 765809570559
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Enhanced Cellulose
Height: 3.4 (86)*
Outer Diameter Top: 2.57 (65)*
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed:
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 27
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Nominal Micron Rating: 15
( )* denotes metric
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Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 (63)* 2.173 (55)* 0.188 (5)*
Principle Application: Subaru (11-15)
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Old 02-19-2016, 03:36 PM   #9
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Which WIX filter? And can they be found locally, AutoZone/Advance Auto or one of those products you need to special order online or something?

I'm struggling to find the "Toyko Roki" filters... Seems they do not exist anymore lol...

Amazon and Ebay only sale the OEM Part Number(s) 15208AA15A oil filter.
It should be Wix 57055. I got mine at a local O'Reillys.
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Also came across the;

MicroGard - Oil Filter
Part # MGL57712

Apparently - meets Subaru's 23psi pressure relief valve criteria?

Has anyone ever used this filter before?
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Old 02-19-2016, 05:12 PM   #11
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Interesting.

So the Puro's leak?

Which oil do you use? @Revin
I'm a huge Castrol fan.

Edge Titanium.
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Old 02-19-2016, 05:32 PM   #12
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I use mag1 (30 for 6qts on amazon) or mobil 1. Never had a problem. Never anticipate one with 5000mi oci. Really doesn't matter with modern API certified oil as long as you don't go to the dollar store and use crappy conventional oil. The filter probably makes more of a difference. I've used K&N HP, Mobil 1 M1-110s, and I think a bosch filter once. Never had a problem with any of those either.
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Old 02-20-2016, 02:45 AM   #13
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Where do you find crappy conventional oil in the appropriate 0w20 weight?

Subaru sells 2 Roki filters for the FA/FB engines - one for the 15+ WRX, and one for the BRZ and some of the 2011 Foresters.

You could do some digging and see if there's any reason not to use the BRZ filter. It's shorter and fatter than the blue OE filter for your engine. The blue filter can be used in place of the Roki. My guess is that the swap could be reversed too.
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Old 02-20-2016, 09:37 AM   #14
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From my understanding - Majority of all BRZ parts are interchangeable with the '12 HB preza. I'm looking in to a full nameless performance BRZ exhaust for my prez. Have to make the cut outs in the bumper, tho.

As far as oil filters. According to the sites, the BRZ roki filter doesn't fit.

I'll have to just buy one and try it, I suppose. I don't see why some sites say it fits and others say the very same filter as per part number doesn't fit.

Weird.
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Old 02-20-2016, 11:27 AM   #15
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Is there any reason not to use the OE filter? Is there a performance boost with other filters? Sorry my first car here, I've never needed to change oil in a car before. I can see the benefit of different oil, with price and availability.

Please inform me about filters.
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Old 02-20-2016, 12:20 PM   #16
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From my understanding and extended time of reading MANYYYYY Opinions on different forums, the NEW Blue OE filter as far as quality is garbage oppose from the older Tokyo Roki Black OE filter SUbarus used to use and discontinued.

Basically taken over by Honeywell aka Fram. And Fram's are the typically aren't up to par as far as considering it a "Quality Filter"

From 90% of all SUbaru Owners prefer the WIX 57055 or the Napa 7055 Oil Filter due to both of them meeting Subaru's standards as well as being just an over all QUALITY product for better filtration for your vehicle.

As far as Oils go, I have yet to see a solid answer from the general consensus. Everyone's very opinionated over the brand they "Have always used" but what I am seeing on a few forums are a lot of Scooby drivers leaning more towards the Full Synthetic Castral oil, also known as the Castral SYN EDGE or something similar.

So I"m looking in to possibly changing over from what I previously used to use in which is Mobil 1 Advanced, considering a lot of scooby drivers seem to frown upon that particular motor oil.

Hope I could help.
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Old 02-20-2016, 01:02 PM   #17
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From my understanding and extended time of reading MANYYYYY Opinions on different forums, the NEW Blue OE filter as far as quality is garbage oppose from the older Tokyo Roki Black OE filter SUbarus used to use and discontinued.

Basically taken over by Honeywell aka Fram. And Fram's are the typically aren't up to par as far as considering it a "Quality Filter"

From 90% of all SUbaru Owners prefer the WIX 57055 or the Napa 7055 Oil Filter due to both of them meeting Subaru's standards as well as being just an over all QUALITY product for better filtration for your vehicle.

As far as Oils go, I have yet to see a solid answer from the general consensus. Everyone's very opinionated over the brand they "Have always used" but what I am seeing on a few forums are a lot of Scooby drivers leaning more towards the Full Synthetic Castral oil, also known as the Castral SYN EDGE or something similar.

So I"m looking in to possibly changing over from what I previously used to use in which is Mobil 1 Advanced, considering a lot of scooby drivers seem to frown upon that particular motor oil.

Hope I could help.
That's just not correct. You pay for cheap, you get cheap. The difference between a high quality and low quality filter is like $5-8 at most. Fram Ultra filters are considered some of the best oil filters on the market at this time.
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Old 02-20-2016, 02:22 PM   #18
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My current oil and filter setup is QSUD 0w20 with a Fram XG 7317.

I've put a lot of free way miles on my 2013 impreza (60k+) and i have used different oil and filter combinations.

Motor oils that I have used in 0w20:
Subaru OEM
Mobil 1
Valvoline
Napa syn
QSUD
Castrol Edge

The oil filters i have used:
Subaru OEM(black one)
Wix (2 different types probably)
Napa gold
Fram tg & xg

I've never had any issues, added oil, or had the oil light come on with any of the above brands. I've always changed the oil and filter around the 7500 mile interval. I did run a napa oil analysis on the valvoline around 30k. Tbn was still high and this was before they began to advertise dexos 1.

My opinion on oil is that at the 0w20 grade they are all good products and will perform for the majority of drivers. I tend to drive my car fast and aggressive (80mph+). I haven't had any issues with any
Of the above brands. I buy what ever is cheapest/on sale and right now that is QSUD, which I get for about $20. This last oil change I received a $10 dollar rebate

My opinion on the filter is to use oem or fram. I liked wix and the Napa filters. I had no issues with them other than the fact i had to puncture one with a screw driver to get it off. I decided to use fram filters exclusively because they are the oem supplier and i dont have to make a second drive to napa auto parts to buy the filter.
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Old 02-20-2016, 02:26 PM   #19
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Not for Subarus. Maybe other vehicles.

I just purchased a WIX - 57055 Oil Filter and compared it to a "Royal Purple" oil filter in which was nearly DOUBLE in price and the WIX filter IN MY HONEST OPINION seemed to have been a better constructed product.

Remember - PRICE DOES NOT equate to LEVEL OF QUALITY.

90% of the time you are purchasing the name, and out of the 90% - 30% of that is actually a quality product.

Regardless - as I stated prior - all of my decisions and suggestions are based off of opinions, not facts as there really isn't any factual scientific data to support what ANYONE suggests.

I have just been reading a lot of different posts on many forums trying to distinguish the better alternative.

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My current oil and filter setup is QSUD 0w20 with a Fram XG 7317.

I've put a lot of free way miles on my 2013 impreza (60k+) and i have used different oil and filter combinations.

Motor oils that I have used in 0w20:
Subaru OEM
Mobil 1
Valvoline
Napa syn
QSUD
Castrol Edge

The oil filters i have used:
Subaru OEM(black one)
Wix (2 different types probably)
Napa gold
Fram tg & xg

I've never had any issues, added oil, or had the oil light come on with any of the above brands. I've always changed the oil and filter around the 7500 mile interval. I did run a napa oil analysis on the valvoline around 30k. Tbn was still high and this was before they began to advertise dexos 1.

My opinion on oil is that at the 0w20 grade they are all good products and will perform for the majority of drivers. I tend to drive my car fast and aggressive (80mph+). I haven't had any issues with any
Of the above brands. I buy what ever is cheapest/on sale and right now that is QSUD, which I get for about $20. This last oil change I received a $10 dollar rebate

My opinion on the filter is to use oem or fram. I liked wix and the Napa filters. I had no issues with them other than the fact i had to puncture one with a screw driver to get it off. I decided to use fram filters exclusively because they are the oem supplier and i dont have to make a second drive to napa auto parts to buy the filter.
Cool, thanks man.

Also, my oil light just recently flickered a week ago. Had to add a quart of oil. Added Mobil 1 Advance 0w-20.

Hasn't come on since. I'm not an aggressive driver by any means.

But thanks for the feedback man.

So your saying your oil consumption is fine?

I've also read the '12 impreza models have an excessive/more then normal oil consumption. To the point - in between every oil service, a quart will need to be added. SO far, I've only had to add 1 quart in between services.... so IDK... And I last had the service done at the dealer and they used all OEM products, oil and filter. Prior - I used all mobil 1 products and never had to add oil.
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Some random cars have oil consumption issues. Some of them are easily fixed under warranty and occasionally some weren't.
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This is only my third post and I'm on my phone so I'm not sure if I'm replying to the correct post but in regards to oil consumption:

When I change my oil, the oil is about halfway on the dipstick. Above the low mark but below the full mark. I have yet to have the oil light come on and never topped up. So maybe I have a half quart that is used up by the time I change my oil. I change my oil based on mileage alone and never put enough months to change it according to the manual. This will change as i have just moved closer to work so now I will be changing based on months instead of mileage put on the oil. So maybe by oil consumption will change, but only time will tell.

A little bit about my background and use of my vehicle:

I bought my car in Jan. of 2013 right when the new model year came out. I did my research and expected to burn oil as normal use. I bought an extra quart of oil which I kept in my car for emergencies, which I never used and gave to my father to top up his new acura cause it was using oil . Based on my research I broke in the car hard in comparison to what the manual says you should do by driving how I normally drive and redlining the engine briefly a couple times when I would enter the free way. I did this based on my own research and theories on breaking in a new car. The most important being you drive the car based on your normal driving style.

If you are still having oil consumption issues:

Other than subaru replacing certain parts of the engine for you based on warranty work due to extensive oil consumption or SOA helping you out, i did see someone mention that Mobil 1 extended performance may have solved their issue. I would try that or alternative 0w20 oils. There is also a lawsuit over oil consumption for certain model years that Subaru may be settling here in the future as well.

Best of luck.
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There's also a red STi "sports" oil filter which is supposedly "high performance", but I'm 99% sure it's just engine bay bling.
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I still don't know what makes an oil filter bad vs good. It filters oil. How is this quantified? Do some last longer than others? Do some flow better? Maybe I just need to look at some specifications. I mean I understand what the difference between an air filter might be in how tiny the pores are filtering certain microns and what not, but an oil filter which you replace ever 5000-10k miles. Seems like even the crappiest one would filter your oil in the given time frame.

What other than cost are the "nicer" filters doing more/less of?

Thanks.
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This is only my third post and I'm on my phone so I'm not sure if I'm replying to the correct post but in regards to oil consumption:

When I change my oil, the oil is about halfway on the dipstick. Above the low mark but below the full mark. I have yet to have the oil light come on and never topped up. So maybe I have a half quart that is used up by the time I change my oil. I change my oil based on mileage alone and never put enough months to change it according to the manual. This will change as i have just moved closer to work so now I will be changing based on months instead of mileage put on the oil. So maybe by oil consumption will change, but only time will tell.

A little bit about my background and use of my vehicle:

I bought my car in Jan. of 2013 right when the new model year came out. I did my research and expected to burn oil as normal use. I bought an extra quart of oil which I kept in my car for emergencies, which I never used and gave to my father to top up his new acura cause it was using oil . Based on my research I broke in the car hard in comparison to what the manual says you should do by driving how I normally drive and redlining the engine briefly a couple times when I would enter the free way. I did this based on my own research and theories on breaking in a new car. The most important being you drive the car based on your normal driving style.

If you are still having oil consumption issues:

Other than subaru replacing certain parts of the engine for you based on warranty work due to extensive oil consumption or SOA helping you out, i did see someone mention that Mobil 1 extended performance may have solved their issue. I would try that or alternative 0w20 oils. There is also a lawsuit over oil consumption for certain model years that Subaru may be settling here in the future as well.

Best of luck.
Lawsuits for the 2012 Impreza, I believe.

Just a flaw in design... In which they SUPPOSEDLY corrected in the 2013 model.

IDK, tho.

I've personally never had an issue with Mobil-1 Advanced but want to try a new oil. I'm leaning more towards the Castrol EDGE Extended or Regualr Edge 0w-20. As that oil is the more common oil used by subaru drivers with a more good then negative ratio according to forum posts.

I've must have read about 1,000 forum posts and 990 of them suggest Castrol EDGE, so I'm going to give it a try.

Another forum, a lot of people were so hyped about the Royal Purple in which I'm not a fan of that brand...
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