Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Sunday October 22, 2017
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > Newbies & FAQs

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-29-2012, 07:17 PM   #1
junlee
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 333691
Join Date: Sep 2012
Question Thinking about buying my first impreza...some concerns.

Hello, I am thinking about buying a 2013 impreza (will be my first Subaru) but I have some concerns. I was talking to a guy at work and he mentioned to me that 148hp might be extremely weak on an AWD car.

I currently have a 2 hour commute every day to/from work and it is mostly highway driving. I am concerned that the impreza might be really slow at pulling out/merging.

Right now I drive a 06 cobalt ls (which is probably around 140hp) but FWD, and it feels pretty slow when pulling out, and I wouldn't want to get anything slower. I'd really like to get the impreza, but maybe it is worth spending the extra cash to get a legacy? Though to get all the features that the impreza has, I would have to shell out like 3 more grand which I really don't want to do, plus I like the impreza body more. Also, I would be getting the automatic transmission on the impreza/legacy.

I don't really know much about how the gears are set up in the impreza, so I was hoping someone could help shed some insight on this for me.

Thanks!
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
junlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 09-29-2012, 08:51 PM   #2
HinshawWRX
Medium Frank
Moderator
 
Member#: 140114
Join Date: Feb 2007
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Common Sense, VA
Vehicle:
2013 Audi
A6 3.0T

Default

Go test drive one.
HinshawWRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2012, 08:59 PM   #3
junlee
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 333691
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

Well I am going to on Monday night after work, but I was just wondering if anyone had any personal experience with it. I won't be able to take it on the highway during my test drive either.
junlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2012, 09:20 PM   #4
philbobz
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 329189
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Default

it is absolutely not sporty...but its not mean to be, for me its enough power for every day use

some people even say its faster than last gen 2.5 L engine, due to the fact that the car is lighter, i cant tell as i never drove last gen impreza
philbobz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2012, 09:46 PM   #5
leecea
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 37359
Join Date: May 2003
Vehicle:
2003 WRX

Default

We have a 2012 Focus and my daughter has a 2010 Hyundai Accent which I recently drove on a 1000 mile road trip. They are both slow but have no trouble keeping up with traffic. With such a long commute, you will really benefit from an economical daily driver. Just recognize that you are not getting a performance car and I'm sure you'll be fine.
leecea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 11:57 AM   #6
Decipher
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 262760
Join Date: Nov 2010
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Lake in the Hills, ILLnoise
Vehicle:
2011 WRX Hatch Limtd
Satin White Pearl

Default

I had the same concerns when buying the wife's Lexus CT200H. It's a hybrid with a dismal 0-60 time. I had the exact same concerns as you do. To my surprise, it did just fine with merging and getting around. You're not gonna win any races but I think you will find the Impreza to be on-par with the other cars in your family. Plus the AWD system and improved MPG is gonna negate any lack in power.
Decipher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 11:58 AM   #7
Decipher
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 262760
Join Date: Nov 2010
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Lake in the Hills, ILLnoise
Vehicle:
2011 WRX Hatch Limtd
Satin White Pearl

Default

Report back after your test drive!
Decipher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 03:24 PM   #8
James2.5i
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 305063
Join Date: Dec 2011
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Central Jersey
Vehicle:
2016 VDUBBB
DGM

Default

Honestly if you are looking for something sporty or with more power than what you have now, i would look elsewhere. The new base imprezas are not fast in any capacity and are designed with fuel economy in mind. They serve really good purposes in other areas of car ownership, 0-60 time is not one of them.
James2.5i is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 03:43 PM   #9
emazz104
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 281811
Join Date: May 2011
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Vermont
Vehicle:
04 WRX
World Rally Blue

Default

I don't know how the new ones feel, but while my 06 2.5i was slow, it was still fine for a daily driver. It had enough to power to keep up with traffic, and just drive around time.

The thing with Subarus is they handle great, and have excellent AWD for a good price. So what the non-turbo models lack in power, they make up for in handling, especially in the winter.

Nobody can decide for you, and you should really go on a test drive, but I had no problem with the car in the year I drove it, and it was very reliable.
emazz104 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 06:12 PM   #10
junlee
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 333691
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

Thanks for the comments everyone. I have been reading more and more about the newer models and it seems that the most common complaint is with the CVT. Though it appears that most people say bad things about it just because it is a CVT, without actually trying it themselves. There are also quite a few reviews floating around that say the paddle shifters make the CVT really fun to drive too.

I think that I will be really happy with it in the end. I live in PA and have decided that my next car is going to be AWD to deal with the horrid winters here. I'm going to try and test drive a 2.0i Limited tomorrow night and see how it goes. I wish that a WRX wasn't so expensive to fuel, or else I would probably get one instead

I will post an update after my test drive and let you guys know how it was.
junlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 07:31 PM   #11
14stu
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 331638
Join Date: Sep 2012
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: Grapevine, TX
Vehicle:
2010 WRX
Black

Default

I bought a 2010 WRX sedan new and after 45k miles I have averaged 24mpg overall, while doing 2-3 autocross events a month. On a road trip to visit relatives in South Dakota I got 30mpg for an entire tank (all highway with 60-65mph speed limits and with my brother and our luggage, about 600lbs).

I put a K&N typhoon cai (cold air intake) on the car soon after I got it and noticed about a 2mpg increase which has already paid for the intake (recently added a Cobb AP and a tune that has significantly increased power without effecting fuel economy aside from encouraging accelerating harder on the on ramps).

The performance is worth the extra gas for me, DO NOT test drive a WRX if you cannot justify the extra gas (you will not be able to settle for the NA if you do).
14stu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 07:43 PM   #12
epistax
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 224197
Join Date: Sep 2009
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Vehicle:
2015 435ix GC
Imperial Blue

Default

I owned an Impreza for 3 years. I would have to say that people who claim it isn't sporty don't have a lot of perspective. While there are plenty of sportier cars, it is sportier than 75% of the cars on the road.

You drive a Cobalt? The Impreza will seem sporty.
epistax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 07:45 PM   #13
emazz104
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 281811
Join Date: May 2011
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Vermont
Vehicle:
04 WRX
World Rally Blue

Default

I don't understand how the gas is that much more?
It doesn't get worse gas millage, and you don't need to use 93, you can use 91 if it's stock.
That's only about $.15 more a gallon, which ends up being a few bucks extra a fill up.
emazz104 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 08:32 PM   #14
Dale2011WRX
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 304299
Join Date: Dec 2011
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Nor'East
Vehicle:
2011 WRX, white
2014 Crosstrek, tangerine

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by junlee View Post
I won't be able to take it on the highway during my test drive either.
If you agree to buy a car that you haven't driven on the highway, you're a fool.
Dale2011WRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 09:20 PM   #15
junlee
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 333691
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

Well one of my other reasons for getting the impreza 2.0i over the WRX is because I am able to get a lot of convenience features and still keep the price relatively close to my budget (I wasn't planning on spending more than 20k originally).

Two years ago, I was actually saving up to get a WRX, but then I got laid off and ended up spending the money that I saved up on other stuff instead.

After that, I sorta put off getting a new car since my cobalt was still running fine (and only had ~20k miles at the time), however as of late it has been having a ton of problems. I've spent about 2 grand on repairs in the past year or so, and am getting tired of it. I don't think it is going to make it through the winter without costing me more money, so I feel that it is best to upgrade to something reliable and good in the snow.

The only reason that I'm willing to go a little over my budget on the impreza is because it gets such good mileage. My cobalt is only getting ~26-28 mpg highway (despite being rated over 30, I've never been able to achieve that, even while driving conservatively), and I'm currently spending $70-$80 a week on gas.

I'm also saving for a house right now, so I'd rather not spend the extra $250 or so a month (gas + payments) for the WRX over the impreza 2.0i.

Trust me, I would absolutely love to have the WRX instead, but it really isn't in my budget right now :/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale2011WRX
If you agree to buy a car that you haven't driven on the highway, you're a fool.
It would be about a 45 minute drive to get there from the dealership. I've only owned one car since I got my license, so maybe I don't know much about dealerships but I assume they only let you take the car out so far. I will probably be able to get up to ~50mph on the roads near the dealership, but not the 70+ highway speeds that I get on my daily commute.
junlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2012, 12:03 PM   #16
Ernest
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 45076
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Rockland County, NY
Vehicle:
2004 Stg 2 wagon AT
16 BRZ. Both silver

Default

OP - I see new NA subies everywhere - including highways. It will be fine for you, unless you need the power - which no one really needs.

You can see how fast the car is for merging or passing without the highway. Just hit it during the test drive. My friend drives a Yaris 110 miles a day and it works, the subie should be just fine.
Ernest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2012, 12:34 PM   #17
myrt1987
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 323103
Join Date: Jun 2012
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Columbia MD
Vehicle:
2018 WRX
Pure der

Default

If youre lookin for the sporty feel and fuel efficiency, go with paddle shifters and cvt.
The cvt takes a week to get used to the engine braking/acceleration tendencies/gearless tranny etc.

With paddle shifters you can shift to 3rd gear, and that will give you some nice acceleraation to about 80mph, then the cvt will take over once you ease off the gas and maximizes mpg.

Disclaimer: the epa est. mpgs on this car arent easy to achieve over 65mph. look at mpg thread for impreza. most people find themselves in low 30s for combined mpg. I drive mainly highways and have a featherfoot i suppose so i can get about 38mpg on my daily commute.

I love my car and highly reccomend it.

Good luck
myrt1987 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 08:43 PM   #18
junlee
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 333691
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

Just thought that I'd give an update.

I went to the only 3 subaru dealerships within reasonable distance of where I live and only one of them had a 4 door impreza limited in stock and it wasn't in the color that I originally wanted

I test drove it anyway and enjoyed it, so now I'm stuck with the choice of ordering a different color and possibly waiting until December to get it, or just get the other one and drive it off the lot tomorrow...

It seemed to have no problem getting moving though. I actually almost launched into a row of cars because I wasn't expecting it to move so quick :P
junlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2012, 08:46 AM   #19
Mr645
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 320769
Join Date: May 2012
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Boca Raton, Florida
Vehicle:
2012 WRX 5 door
Blue

Default

I actually went looking for an Imprezza 2.5 manual hatch only to find that for 2012, the 2.5 was replaced with a 2.0L. Anyway, one test drive and yea, the current Imprezza is about as sporty as mashed potatoes. No power, mushy soft suspension, not a fun car at all. Why offer AWD in a car that could not spin one wheel?

Anyway, ended up with my WRX. Other then the barge on the back, the WRX and Imprezza have nothing in common when it comes to the driving experience. Either step up to the WRX, or go look at the Mazda 3 that still comes with a 2.5L engine (The Sky 2 L is also a dog)
Mr645 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2012, 09:05 AM   #20
tibug
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 273906
Join Date: Feb 2011
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Romance
Vehicle:
2006 Accord W/ VTEC!
Soon2BeForSale

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr645 View Post
Why offer AWD in a car that could not spin one wheel?
I see you live in Florida. Up here we have an interesting phenomenon called "snow". It's like water but it's actually frozen.

I have two Subarus, a 1999 Impreza with the 2.2l and a 2003 Outback with the 2.5. The Impreza only has 142 hp, but it gets up and goes...faster than the Outback for sure. It weighs about the same as the new Impreza too. I, for one, am not disappointed at all in my Impreza's ability to get to highway speeds. With a CVT rather than a 5-speed, you'll be even better.

That said, unless you frequently get your car stuck in snow, the AWD is not as important as good snow tires. It's wonderful when you're stuck in the snow, but it won't do jack for you when you start sliding out around a corner or you're unable to stop for a light. You're safer in a FWD car with snows than a AWD car with "all-seasons."
tibug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2012, 10:57 AM   #21
colin1234567
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 212639
Join Date: May 2009
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Vehicle:
WRX= 13/SWP/SOLD
'10 NC2 Miata

Default

Not enough hp for an AWD car? It's mostly fwd anyways, no?

Moral of this story, shouldn't be too worried about acceleration in inclement weather when all four are engaged.
colin1234567 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2012, 11:35 AM   #22
RM_2
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 163058
Join Date: Oct 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: SE Michigan
Vehicle:
'16 BRZ Limited WRB
'09 Legacy 2.5i SE OBP

Default

I guess there's a question that should be asked here: Do you need AWD?

I guess this is a somewhat funny question for a guy whose family owns four Subarus and drives all of them, but if I lived in an area where snow wasn't that much of a problem, I probably would be running a FWD car with all-seasons.
RM_2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2012, 01:30 PM   #23
rkramer
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 118209
Join Date: Jun 2006
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: North Dakota
Vehicle:
2015 WRX Limitec

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tibug View Post
It's wonderful when you're stuck in the snow, but it won't do jack for you when you start sliding out around a corner or you're unable to stop for a light. "
So yes, if you nail the brakes around a turn in snow, its going to turn into a sled and just slide. Makes no difference if its fwd or awd. Now if you drive the car through the turn while managing a little gas, AWD can pull you through it while the FWD car slides off to the side. It takes some experience and play time in a parking lot, but the gas peddle isn't always the enemy in slippery roads.

And an AWD car can often stop slightly shorter than a FWD. You are fighting the transmission trying to keep the wheels turning with a FWD car, while it isn't an issue in AWD.
rkramer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2012, 01:50 PM   #24
Shortpersonbk
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 319017
Join Date: May 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Michigan
Vehicle:
15 Prius
2JZ miata Death Trap

Default

you will be fine..if your really worried why not pick up a used wrx 08+ or something with under 40-50k miles
Shortpersonbk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2012, 03:03 PM   #25
JustMatt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 269722
Join Date: Jan 2011
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Vehicle:
2009 Impreza
Grey

Default

Just more peanut gallery commentary here, but I ended up getting a certified pre owned 2009 2.5i premium for 17k with 30k miles on it and couldn't be happier. AWD was a pretty big consideration for me since I have a 600 foot long dirt driveway. Haven't been able to use it in the snow just yet, but my previous Legacy surprised me with how well it was able to pull through my driveway a few mornings I left before the plow guy came. That was also just with all season tires. Good luck and hopefully you end up happy with whatever you get.
JustMatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2017 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2017, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.