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Old 07-23-2012, 01:47 PM   #1
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Has anyone else experienced some slight rust below the rear door opening next to the spot welded seam? To be more specific, open rear door, look were lower plastic trim ends, there is a spot welded seam. I am trying to see how common this, or if it is specific to mine, because of the body lift. I will try to post a pic later. The paint appears to be bubbling, which usually means moisture coming in from behind, but I can't seem to find the source.
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:58 PM   #2
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I can tell you it has nothing to do with your lift. I have the same rust in the same exact spot. I've been wondering what the solution as well. Same thing happens on the 00-04 Outbacks. Mines gotten quite a bit worse in the last year. I'll see if I can get some pics tonite.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:22 PM   #3
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Ditto here. I've been watching that seam slowly bubble for some time now, but it hasnt burst through yet. My driver's side seems to be a little worse than the passenger side. I haven't looked up behind that seam, but I'm sure it is an unsealed seam that lets water collect and sit there over time. If I ever get the time, I'd like to expose the rust, dry it out, and hit it with POR15 urethane paint (if I can get up there). The stuff works wonders to prevent further corrosion...
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:38 PM   #4
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Ditto here. I've been watching that seam slowly bubble for some time now, but it hasnt burst through yet. My driver's side seems to be a little worse than the passenger side. I haven't looked up behind that seam, but I'm sure it is an unsealed seam that lets water collect and sit there over time. If I ever get the time, I'd like to expose the rust, dry it out, and hit it with POR15 urethane paint (if I can get up there). The stuff works wonders to prevent further corrosion...
Rust is a $%#, my suggestion get rid of all the bubbles and sand it down to metal. Allowing it to continue to get moisture will eat thru the metal and your car will break in half, yeah right, getting to that rust early will prevent further damage. Since you have mentioned it, I will look at my car tomorrow.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:08 AM   #5
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I think it is going to be hard to get behind that area, this Spring I removed the plastic fuel tank protectors on both sides looking for access (I will note that on the passenger side above the tank protector, there is a brake line junction that was heavily corroded, I cleaned it as best that i could and sprayed rubberized coating up in there), last weekend I removed the plastic fender liner, and pulled the leading edge of the rear cladding away, hoping to get a look behind the rust. No go The only thing left that might offer access is the lower cladding strip below the doors (not hopeful though) I suspect at high speeds a mist is working its way behind there possibly from a lower seem (don't know) I don't claim to be a body repair pro, but in my experience, bubbling usually implies moister is getting through from behind. I have already repaired this about two years ago (treating the rust, and painting) this is looking like a real PITA to get to the cause and stop it. A best case scenario would be if salt and moister is settling out there from under the rear door, as the door seals do not prevent moisture from getting to the top of the seam.
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:31 PM   #6
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somebody take a pic please. I'm not sure where to look.
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:09 PM   #7
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somebody take a pic please. I'm not sure where to look.
Just open the rear door, and look where the curvature of the front of the rear fender well meets the top of the kick panel. There is a spot welded seam , that runs under the plastic trim next to the side of the rear seat. Can't mis it if you have it
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:57 PM   #8
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I have been noticing that my passenger door has alot of film and dirt from the road in that area. You're suggestion about the door seals could be right because I shouldn't be seeing any type of dirt beyond the door seals.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:11 AM   #9
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You're not alone. I have somewhat major rust on both sides of the car in that spot.
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:08 PM   #10
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This past weekend, I took a good look at my mother-in-law's 05 Baja. There wasn't any rust on either side. She has over 120k on the clock. They're some unknowns about her Baja though, number one, I think it has been painted (at least the cladding) her Baja is all one color (Garnet), I am not sure if that color came solid or two tone (silver cladding), two, she is not the original owner, so I'm not sure if it has been exposed to road salt or not, and three she does not do much, if any Interstate driving in the winter. So, for now I'm just going to prep mine well, treat the area with a rust neutralizer, and paint it.
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:14 PM   #11
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if garnet is the bright red than yes they did come a single color. A bank teller down the street has one.
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:36 PM   #12
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:02 PM   #13
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that's alot of rust there. Only scraping off all of the loose can tell how bad it is. The bottom support looks fixable but the upper part has alot of bubbling
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:20 PM   #14
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damn...........
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:42 PM   #15
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eh....**** happens. I got nearly 220,000 miles. The Toyota dealer i work at has a body shop, I might have them check it out. I'd like to pretty much take this Baja to the grave with me, so I might as well get it fixed while its still fxable.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:41 PM   #16
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On mine, which isn't quite that bad, the rust is closer to the plastic trim working its way down, and I don't have any next to where the rubber door stop touches. I feel the same as Samirr76 though, I'm keeping mine till I drop
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:09 PM   #17
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Wow... glad we don't use salt in Oregon
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Old 08-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #18
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Wow... glad we don't use salt in Oregon
Unfortunately , Maine swapped to calcium chloride, and now we also have to keep a.close eye on bushings, as the new mix also attacks those as well as exposed metal :-(
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:16 AM   #19
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Wow... glad we don't use salt in Oregon
I was thinking this. There's random chips from the gravel, and occasionally they use mag chloride, but rust isn't a concern here.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:19 AM   #20
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Members: Has anyone discovered a source and/or access to this area? My 06 is just starting to show a little rust in this seam area (driver's side)and I would like to keep after it. TIA.
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:56 PM   #21
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If its just starting, prep the area removing all loose paint and rust, treat with a rust stabilizer, and paint it. So far I haven't found a way to get behind it, so Ive had to treat it from above.

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Old 11-21-2012, 08:37 PM   #22
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I don't have this problem but I rust proof the car every year however they typically don't apply rustproofing in that area.. I think I'll get them to shoot some there just incase!
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:06 AM   #23
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I'm starting to notice a lot of rust forming anywhere they body seams come together up underneath the spare tire. The front was rust coated and seems to be holding well. Only thing is the fender panel I had replaced after my accident they guy must have shorted me and not used subaru metal because it's rusting.

To help stop the front from rusting if you open the driver/pass door and spray water down in the bottom, this is behind the front fender and tends to accumulate dirt, it's also where the sun roof drain empties. I took the fender liners off and coated it in sealer wax. So far it seems to hold.
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