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Old 09-07-2002, 04:49 AM   #1
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Default Buying an Impreza TS

I'm interested in getting a TS because it's within my budget. I have a few questions:

a) I heard that older Imprezas had wimpy wimpy engines (unless it was the WRX). Is this true? and if so, which ones? I want something with atleast 140 hp or more.
b) Is it possible to put add-ons on the TS to make it close to the RS? I'm thinking front disc brake size increase, and changing the rear brakes to disc brakes (this is the 2000 model TS, I believe)?
c) Should I just get an RS? What do I save from getting a TS? I don't intend to burn a ton of rubber, I just wanna have the goodness of AWD. Plus, I plan to autocross here and there.

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Old 09-07-2002, 01:06 PM   #2
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a. Not true, unless you get a 1993 - 1995 1.8L, they only had 110hp but are still much fun to drive. It was my previous Impreza.
Also, post-1996 all Imprezas came with the 2.2L which made between 135hp and 142hp depending on what phase motor it was. The 2.2L was scrapped for this model year and all cars come with the 2.5L now.

b. Yes. The TS is a little cheaper than the RS (current models). I'd advise getting an '03 TS since they've added cruise control this year. Also, the TS does have drum/disc with ABS. Its pretty good, but doesn't have the feel of my 4 wheel disc on my '01 RS, but for autocross purposes it will be fine. Currently I've got an '02 OBS and an '01 RS. The OBS can take a suprising thrashing and the brakes are adequate. If I really wanted to autocross it, I'd look at getting the Subaru 4pot kit in the front....the system is already biased to the front wheels. To me, it just seems more trouble than its worth to do the disc conversion, so I'd just concentrate on making the front brake better and be more efficient.

c. They're both good cars, but after re-reading your post, and the mention of a 2000 TS, are you in Canada? If so, that changes a few things.

If you are, just save the money, the TS is fine and use your savings to increase braking, stainless lines, better pads/discs and enjoy being a sleeper. Phase 2 2.2L motors well driven can keep up with an RS' 2.5L.

Hope this helps.
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Old 09-08-2002, 03:19 AM   #3
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Wow... that's quite a bit of info!!

Thanks. It helped a lot. Yes, I do live in Canada. Any suggestions or warnings for Canadian Subie wannabe-owners?

Is there a way to tell between a Phase 1 and Phase 2?
Also, does it matter if it's a wagon or not? Performance wise? I know the look is different, but hey... who cares! (well, I kinda care, but if the car's good enough... who cares!)

I will probably look into a TS from 1996 to 2000 (just before the headlight change). These have the 140 hp engines, don't they?
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Old 09-08-2002, 10:16 PM   #4
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Wow... that's quite a bit of info!!

Thanks. It helped a lot. Yes, I do live in Canada. Any suggestions or warnings for Canadian Subie wannabe-owners?

Is there a way to tell between a Phase 1 and Phase 2?
Also, does it matter if it's a wagon or not? Performance wise? I know the look is different, but hey... who cares! (well, I kinda care, but if the car's good enough... who cares!)

I will probably look into a TS from 1996 to 2000 (just before the headlight change). These have the 140 hp engines, don't they?
I don't think there are too many issues to look for...just the basic maintenance has been performed, the car doesn't show any signs of neglect or abuse. And it shouldn't matter if its a wagon or now...they are the same mechanically if I remember correctly.

As for the phase 2, I believe they were available after 1998 and up to 2001 before the body style change.


Hope this helps.
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Old 09-09-2002, 09:42 PM   #5
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Its a pretty low cost thing to add RS brakes, springs and struts to an L/TS. The TS was a later version, 1999?, it was L prior to that. If you want a wagon (doesn't everyone) then the RS is not for you.
The best thing about the RS is the 2.5l with 165hp.
RS in 2000 also got a standard rear LSD and available leather. They have nicer seats and interiors, fog lights, spoilers and cruise control, hood scoupe, etc. There are a bunch of other things.

It is definitely cheaper to buy and L or TS and upgrade if you can do without the power. 1997 and up share more parts in common with RSs. WRX parts fit on too, wheels can be found especially cheap.

Go for it.
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:47 PM   #6
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anyone still interested in talking about TS's! of the 01 variety
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:12 PM   #7
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the 1.8l aren't really that bad more of an economey engine then anything but yeah still fun to drive and not to mention they can take a beating.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:12 PM   #8
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the 1.8l aren't really that bad more of an economey engine then anything but yeah still fun to drive and not to mention they can take a beating.


I have never seen a 1.8l car, just seen them on NASIOC. Sounds like the 2.2l. It seems like the 2.5 sohc doesn't like to play. Still feeling it out.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:04 PM   #9
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Default I just bought a 2.2L

I recently have bought a 98 2.2L and as far as power goes it isn't the fastest car but it feels fast and is fun to throw around on gravel & in snow. The reason I bought the car was because these cars are becoming rarer every day and I think they are the best looking Subaru. One thing to look for when buying is regular maintenance. First off the timing belt and water pump need to be changed roughly every 100k. If maintenence records do not exist I would take the car immediately to get that done. One issue I've currently run into is my gas tank will not take fuel very well. Which I found is the evap line that runs parallel to the fill tube gets clogged and makes it so air cannot escape the tank, therefor making it a hassle to fill your car up.
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Old 02-18-2017, 11:24 AM   #10
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I have a 2001 TS with the 2.2l. I also have recently picked up an 2006 Legacy 2.5i wagon. I have found and now recognize these older Impreza cars are tough and can take a beating. They can handle rough roads unlike other vehicles. The 2.2 can really be pushed and is beyond reliable. Although the old rubber fuel lines seeped in the extreme cold, the CEL was on, the knock sensor always acted up(low end no power then mid to high end a surge of power like a turbo...a crappy one but none the less it was fun. It sounded like and airplane due to an exhaust manifold leak. The thing sound like a monster when you start it cold until it warms up then you can't hear it( actually kind of funny). It has always started and is a the car is geared to match this engine. The Legacy is refined with tall gears - definitely not a track car. It is refined and handles well but not like the Impreza- turns a dime drifts when you want and is a beast through all weather. I would like to try out an 06-07 Impreza. I may get the best of both worlds there
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Old 02-21-2017, 03:42 AM   #11
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I've got a 96 OBS 5mt and just picked up a 93 L wagon with the 1.8 4eat.

They're the 8th and 9th Subarus I've owned, 5th and 6th first gen Imprezas. I love them.

Cruise control is easy to add.
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