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Old 08-29-2017, 12:48 PM   #1
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Default A case for RWD

Granted:
AWD is more capable, more intuitive, and faster with the Impreza's weight balance. RWD will be an objectively less usable modification.

But is it wrong to trade that, for a different experience?

I prefer RWD as an experience, and I value a 5-door daily driver platform. Unfortunately, there aren't many great RWD 5-door options. The manual IS300 wagon is crazy rare and the German wagons are expensive to own.

For now, I'm assuming the technical performance loss of dissabling AWD is made up by the accessibility of the RWD experience from a Japanese daily driver 5-door. I'm assuming that I'll enjoy a RWD Impreza more than a daily driver 3-Series, 240SX, or AWD Impreza.

So I hope I won't get slammed too bad as I figure out how to mutilate my drivetrain.
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Old 08-29-2017, 12:51 PM   #2
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If anyone has owned a RWD a Impreza, I'd love to hear your experience. We're you happy with it?

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Old 09-13-2017, 11:46 PM   #3
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I helped put together a short-lived RWD 02' wrx. The center-diff ceased due to mis-matched front-rear diffs, so we took the front cv's out and cut the ends off them to bolt back into the hubs (otherwise the wheels fall off the hub, we learned the hard way).

Was pretty fun and would break traction quite easily for the 5minutes it lived before 1st gear blew apart like a typical wrx 😂 after which the trans was rebuilt and a working center diff put back in and returned to AWD.
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Old 09-26-2017, 02:51 PM   #4
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I've been RWD for a few months. I have very large offroad tires and the car breaks axles and output shafts like kit-kats. However, the car is extremely fun in the rain and dirt.
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Old 09-29-2017, 08:55 AM   #5
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I've been RWD for a few months. I have very large offroad tires and the car breaks axles and output shafts like kit-kats. However, the car is extremely fun in the rain and dirt.
Ouch. Are you upgrading the parts as they snap?
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Ouch. Are you upgrading the parts as they snap?
No. The stock axles and output shafts are cheap and easy to replace. If I beef up these parts then only more expensive and harder to replace parts break. You wouldn't break things like me. 235/70/16's really are massive and I shouldnt be attempting burnouts with them.
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Old 09-30-2017, 10:51 AM   #7
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No. The stock axles and output shafts are cheap and easy to replace. If I beef up these parts then only more expensive and harder to replace parts break. You wouldn't break things like me. 235/70/16's really are massive and I shouldnt be attempting burnouts with them.
What expensive bits are you worried about breaking? Anything other than rear diff and driveshaft?

Do you have any pics of your monster?
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Old 09-30-2017, 02:59 PM   #8
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Ive broken a trans and rear diff. The axles I dont really care about replacing, but finding a VSLD is not easy. And replacing a trans is both expensive amd time consuming.
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Ive broken a trans and rear diff. The axles I dont really care about replacing, but finding a VSLD is not easy. And replacing a trans is both expensive amd time consuming.
Nice. I like it. Was thinking along similar lines. Nothing like the freedom of not worrying about dings and scratches.
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Old 10-16-2017, 03:41 PM   #10
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So, I went a Rallycross event yesterday. It was my first timed event, and I did better than I expected. I certainly have a lot to learn, but I did experience the car's impressive balance, particularly through the slaloms. Even my novice, clumsy inputs were smoothed-over through neutral, predictable, controllable lift-off oversteer.

I still missed consistent, linear throttle-steer, but I felt the platform's intuitive dynamism. I'm still daydreaming about eliminating my center diff, but the experience makes me consider exactly what I'm likely giving up. I wish there was a way to test drive a RWD Impreza to feel how much is lost.

I also noticed myself caring more about the lap times than I thought I would. The objective performance of the car was starting to edge out the subjective experience of it.

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