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Old 07-22-2014, 10:28 PM   #1
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Been happening for about a week so far. Going to set up an appointment soon with Subaru but i wanted some video evidence just in case they can not verify it. But I now found out how to produce it every time.

Basically when going downhill (ONLY downhill) in first gear while engine braking from about 3k down the car will pop out of first gear (not stepping on the brakes at all)

Just wanted to post my findings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwGs...raHPyyt4hcwcuw
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:20 PM   #2
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interesting let us know how it turns out at the dealer.
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:26 PM   #3
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You should really bring it in immediately.

You need to give Subaru an opportunity to fix the issue right away because your usage could cause an even bigger problem.

The issue could go from you simply needing to replace a blown motor/trans mount, to needing an entire transmission.
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Old 07-23-2014, 12:06 AM   #4
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You should really bring it in immediately.

You need to give Subaru an opportunity to fix the issue right away because your usage could cause an even bigger problem.

The issue could go from you simply needing to replace a blown motor/trans mount, to needing an entire transmission.
I am calling them tomorrow to make an appointment. Just wanted proof first so they don't say "cannot verify"
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:31 PM   #5
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ok finally got an update. So hard to get into this dealership. Dropped it off last night. They worked on it today. Called Subaru techline. First thing they ask "what modifications does the vehicle have?" (really they just assume it's modding error? This is Subaru not the dealership asking.) Anyways. They adjusted the shifter linkage and now so far so good. But Techline told them (the dealership) to tell me that can occasionally happen. Really? I never owned a manual car that did that and know this isn't normal. My service adviser thought this was bs as well. But let's see if this really does fix the issue.
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:37 PM   #6
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Id replace the stock motor and trans mounts with something stiffer ASAP.

I know the mounts on the 08-14 can cause linkage issues, and transmission issues, because they allow such a ridiculous amount of movement.

I would assume its no different on the 15.

There are probably some accessory mounts you can buy through Subaru so they wont affect your warranty.
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Old 09-18-2014, 09:16 PM   #7
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Seems like it was off
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:39 PM   #8
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Any update on this? Just had this happen tonight twice. Seems weird.
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:44 PM   #9
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you have a short throw?
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Old 03-27-2015, 02:26 PM   #10
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Any update on this? Just had this happen tonight twice. Seems weird.
so far so good. put about another 5k miles on it with no issue

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you have a short throw?
no sts on mine
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:51 AM   #11
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I'm having a similar issue with my 2015 WRX but with factory installed STS. I cannot replicate the problem, but it happens and drives me nuts when it does. I'll be driving in first gear at low speeds through a parking lot, let off the throttle and it will "pop" into neutral... but it doesn't happen every time. I've had both Oakland and Marin Subaru drive the car and neither have been able to replicate the issue.

Anyone else deal with this?
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:41 PM   #12
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I think it's fairly common. I've had it happen 2 or 3 times, in first going real slowly down a hill.
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Old 09-14-2015, 10:25 PM   #13
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I think it's fairly common. I've had it happen 2 or 3 times, in first going real slowly down a hill.
Do anything to fix it? I wonder if it can pop out of 1st when parked on a hill...
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Old 04-19-2016, 06:52 PM   #14
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My car is also doing this. Been into the dealer 3 times now. Had to bring out a Subaru field engineer. All cables were adjusted and still nothing. They are taking apart the transmission now....

car is stock minus some visual bells and whistles
less than 11k on the clock
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Old 05-03-2016, 11:33 PM   #15
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I'm having the same issue on my 2016 wrx with 4400 miles. This is nuts.
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Old 05-06-2016, 04:23 PM   #16
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I discovered this issue waaaay back in 2014 as well. Never thought of it as anything although none of my passed manual cars ever did this. But as OP stated, this only happens going down hill, this applies to me as well. I just don't engine break in 1st gear when down hill anymore. Does not really bother me.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:03 PM   #17
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my 2016 had the first gear pop out since day 1. The dealer I purchased from didn't want to do anything and just tell me keep driving. My local dealer took the car and contacted Subaru tech and replaced first to fourth gear synchronizer set. The car now still have a little issue. I will report back with any update later.
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Old 07-06-2016, 05:51 PM   #18
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I've been having this issues on my '15 with 1st gear pop out during engine braking while on a hill.

Took it to my local dealer and was able to recreate the issue.
Fix #1- tighten / adjust shifter cable = did not work
Fix #2- drop the tranny and open it up. So far, techs don't see any issue in there, but are having a Subaru field rep come out to take a look and figure out what the next step is.


I will keep you posted on what the next solution will be, and if it solves the issue.
My wife just picked up a '17 Limited. I hope this issue doesn't revisit itself with hers.
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Old 07-06-2016, 06:30 PM   #19
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FWIW, transmissions always seem to come back worse after techs have opened them .

No offense to the techs, it's just much more complicated and difficult than what they do 99% of the time.
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:15 PM   #20
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I find it funny how I've had this issue fixed via a transmission swap and shift assembly swap yet they're still trying to figure out why by sending techs out to other people's cars. Makes no sense to me.
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Old 07-07-2016, 03:36 PM   #21
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FWIW, transmissions always seem to come back worse after techs have opened them .

No offense to the techs, it's just much more complicated and difficult than what they do 99% of the time.
Yeah, when they mentioned that they opened up the trans, I cringed a bit.
The field tech can't find anything wrong with it, but are replacing the linkage cables and they noticed uneven wear on the clutch, so they're replacing that too. The Subaru field tech will be there to watch/help with the reassembly.

I'm thinking of getting an extended warranty now.
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Old 07-07-2016, 03:37 PM   #22
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I find it funny how I've had this issue fixed via a transmission swap and shift assembly swap yet they're still trying to figure out why by sending techs out to other people's cars. Makes no sense to me.
I've had this issue start at around 30k miles. Would a new trans just reset the clock till the same wear time passed?
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:49 AM   #23
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This is not normal, something is wrong. I had a 2015 with 20,000 miles and never once had this issue.
I now have a different 2015 that I bought used with about 13,000 miles. It was having this issue from day one and I could not shift into first gear without coming to a complete dead stop. Put 1,000 miles on the car and the transmission went south. I could not shift into any gears and also when shifter was in neutral, the transmission would still be in gear. Not cool...well the dealership had the car for a little over a month and pretty much had to rebuild the whole transmission.
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Old 07-21-2016, 05:35 PM   #24
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Anybody actually get this diagnosed and fixed? My 2017 WRX does this, but I don't even have to be traveling down hill. The first time I experienced this, I was engine breaking in 1st between two closely placed stop signs. Heard a clunk, and looked down to see my shifter worked it's way into neutral. Engine braking in any other gear is completely normal. Tested it out 2 more times before accepting this may be a real issue. I want to take it to a dealer, but most around me don't give out loaners if you didn't purchase the car there (bought mine out of state), and I really need one.
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Old 07-21-2016, 05:41 PM   #25
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I never did, only seemed to happen when I was engine braking on a fairly steep hill in 1st. It's rare that I'm in that situation and first gear sucks in general to be in, so I don't really think it's an issue.
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