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Old 06-12-2013, 11:07 AM   #1
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Im not sure where to post this but i have 96 impreza l wagon and im looking to build a little rallyX toy so i was wonderkng what people thought about suspension, brakes, transmission, diffs, engine, body and anything else. Whats the best for a street car during the week and a rallyX monster on the weekends?
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:06 PM   #2
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Whats the best for a street car during the week and a rallyX monster on the weekends?

Two different vehicles. The more rallyX monster, the less streetable, and vice versa.

That said, you can start out rallyX with little more than snow tires and a skidplate. Have fun, see if you like it, and find out if you're any good before dive-bombing the checkbook with lots of mods to the car.

Meanwhile, talk to other rallyXers who have similar Scoobs and see what they have, what works, what's cost-effective.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:16 PM   #3
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What RB5 said. Start stock with 55psi in the tires that are on it. See how it does. If you like it, look at what other people have done and choose your class from there.

I can tell you that a set of STi springs, some KYB AGX or Tokiko DSpec's with stock bars and snow or rally tires is quite fun.

At the same time, rallyxing your daily driver is a bad idea because bad things do happen and it's really annoying when you need to go to work on Monday and your car isn't up to the task.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:58 PM   #4
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Like above, try it first. Don't buy a new car yet. And run what you have.

If you want to minimize risk (but you can't eliminate it) then go "slow" and don't dive bomb into turns. In autox dive bombing (going to fast) usually just means whacking a few cones and wearing tires, but in rallyx it could mean hitting a berm and bending something.

Pump up your tires pretty high (over 40 psi) to reduce chances of debeading the tires. And don't cry when your paint gets scratches.
And stock AWD class is a good class to run.

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Old 06-12-2013, 02:40 PM   #5
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Like above, try it first. Don't buy a new car yet. And run what you have.

If you want to minimize risk (but you can't eliminate it) then go "slow" and don't dive bomb into turns. In autox dive bombing (going to fast) usually just means whacking a few cones and wearing tires, but in rallyx it could mean hitting a berm and bending something.

Pump up your tires pretty high (over 40 psi) to reduce chances of debeading the tires. And don't cry when your paint gets scratches.
And stock AWD class is a good class to run.

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To add to the part I bolded above, if you do it just right (wrong) you can roll a car.

I witnessed an Escort GT on gravel tires (Rally America car) do this by handbrake turning and catching a rut (the tire may have debeaded, I don't recall)...that successfully removed all of my desire to run my car fast that day You shouldn't need to do much handbraking in an AWD Impreza though.

Just think ahead, drive smart, and have fun.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:34 PM   #6
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Drive it. Become a monster DRIVER, and don't worry about the car.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:17 PM   #7
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I think "monster" was the wrong word by a long shot. I want something for the street and for rallyX on the weekends and i have a good set of tires on it now and im just looking to know what else to make it better for rallyX without losing all of its streetability and still make fun on and off the dirt. Iv done an amateur rallyX before and it was a great time, im just wondering if theres anything to make it fun on and off road.

I appreciate all the input and id love to hear more, thanks guys
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:04 AM   #8
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I think "monster" was the wrong word by a long shot. I want something for the street and for rallyX on the weekends and i have a good set of tires on it now and im just looking to know what else to make it better for rallyX without losing all of its streetability and still make fun on and off the dirt. Iv done an amateur rallyX before and it was a great time, im just wondering if theres anything to make it fun on and off road.

I appreciate all the input and id love to hear more, thanks guys
Get a set of 16" stock wheels and use them for rallyx. Save your other wheels for street.
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Old 06-13-2013, 03:03 PM   #9
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Good advice all around, definately check out www.dirtyimpreza.com those guys live eat and breath subaru modified for dirt trails, rally, and rallycross.
examples for off road mods: switch to forester struts and springs, add 1 inch lift spacer run 16's with AT grabber 2's. skid plates and mud flaps are a given... Dirty impreza has that kind of stuff ( and more) , if that was what you were thinking.
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:53 PM   #10
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Well how much does it cost to swap over to forester suspension and 1" spacers? And where do you recommend getting a skid plate and mudflaps for the best price?
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:20 PM   #11
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Not much. There is forester suspension in the NESIC classifieds right now I think. If you are seriously interested I have some old rally wheels and tires I'll let go cheap. Just remember- mod the driver first.
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Just remember- mod the driver first.
I cannot stress this enough. There is literally no need to do anything other than show up. Once you are doing it for a bit and becoming competitive, you'll know what you need to do at that point. Don't spend your money on anything other then entry fees and gas!
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Old 06-14-2013, 01:21 PM   #13
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I cannot stress this enough. There is literally no need to do anything other than show up. Once you are doing it for a bit and becoming competitive, you'll know what you need to do at that point. Don't spend your money on anything other then entry fees and gas!
This... and making sure your car is in normal working order.

Another rallyx story. A guy won the overall rallyx competition (full open best time) and he was in a STOCK TOYOTA YARIS ON STOCK TIRES.

super light vehicle, yes. That's part of it, but it was mostly the driver. In the field were modified STI's with winter tires, etc.
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:23 PM   #14
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Yep driver comes first just like everyone else said, don't worry about the other stuff. I wasn't sure if Matt was interested in building his wagon into an off road machine. Cause some people like to do both. If you want to be driver- spend that mod money on rally/rally cross school. Welll worth the investment. Here on the west coast we have several affordable rallycross schools through Paul at Primitive racing and several through CRS one up near sacremento and one in ridgecrest. I know about Team Oniel do you East coast guys have any local rallycross schools that Matt could look into?
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