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Old 08-25-2013, 05:22 PM   #1
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Default Anyone Using Hoosier A6 for light track Duty

Just want to get some input, Got a set of stickers and am thinking about doing a track day in em. Some of the Lotus guys say they like them better than the R6's.

But lotus make a lighter car too?

Just wondering if anyone has some real first hand knowledge in a WRX>>>.
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:39 PM   #2
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Faster than r6s so I don't see why not. I love some brand new a6s. Yummy
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:40 PM   #3
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Have you used them on the track before.?
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:13 PM   #4
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I'm intersted too. I'd hate using r6 for autox and have to heat the crap out of them. If I could just use a6 for a little of both would be great.
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I've been hearing more and more lately of people successfully running A6s on track. Especially for Time Attack. Although personally I'd get a set of R1-S. they are a bit cheaper and last longer, with the same amount of grip.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:00 AM   #6
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Have you used them on the track before.?
Absolutely. 20 races last year and then switched to bfg r1s because they have a better contingency with nasa
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:27 AM   #7
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I've been hearing more and more lately of people successfully running A6s on track. Especially for Time Attack. Although personally I'd get a set of R1-S. they are a bit cheaper and last longer, with the same amount of grip.
Generally, the heavier the car and the warmer it is, the more the advantage goes to the R1S over the A6. That being said, the R1S is pretty useless in track temps below 70 deg, and the A6's will work better sooner.

I have A6's on my Nissan 350Z track car, and they are fine. In a time attack scenario, I would give the A6's a slight edge because they get into their ideal working range faster.
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Generally, the heavier the car and the warmer it is, the more the advantage goes to the R1S over the A6. That being said, the R1S is pretty useless in track temps below 70 deg, and the A6's will work better sooner.

I have A6's on my Nissan 350Z track car, and they are fine. In a time attack scenario, I would give the A6's a slight edge because they get into their ideal working range faster.
the R1S also has a very delicate heat range. Once you over-heat them they tend to not "come back". A6 is a nice tire, a bit more flex in the sidewall which helps. R1 is prob gonna be my tire of choice on the GTS2 car, but i wish i could run a A6 on the RS
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Absolutely. 20 races last year and then switched to bfg r1s because they have a better contingency with nasa
Really Nice. Is there anything I should look out for when running these. I already bought them and would love to test em on the track?
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Really Nice. Is there anything I should look out for when running these. I already bought them and would love to test em on the track?
I don't think he did 20 races with the same set of tires If so, he's doing about 5 laps per race
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I don't think he did 20 races with the same set of tires If so, he's doing about 5 laps per race
Lol. Yeah multiple sets. Each race avg 45 mins.

What's up with gts2 rokkit? I'm thinking about trying something new. Had 1 ptb car wadded up and 2 others sold theirs to hpders. Class is dead. Thinking about Honda challenge now
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Lol. Yeah multiple sets. Each race avg 45 mins.

What's up with gts2 rokkit? I'm thinking about trying something new. Had 1 ptb car wadded up and 2 others sold theirs to hpders. Class is dead. Thinking about Honda challenge now
Well I'm going to be moving down to NC and PT up here has dried up a bit. I'm looking to invest in a car that I can race in wider series and the bmw M3 (e36) works well for that. PTB, GTS2/3, BMW CCA, etc. I thought about H2, but the cost is about the same for the E36 and there's more spots I can throw it. H2 is HUGE up here in the NE but not so crazy down in Mid-A/SE from what I've seen from results.
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Good deal. Se best class is hc right now unless you want to get a thunder roadster and get smashed every corner. Maybe 2 in gts2 and I've been soloing in ptb. Mid a had a pretty good gts2 last time I went to vir. I'll probably catch ya at cmp next year
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Good deal. Se best class is hc right now unless you want to get a thunder roadster and get smashed every corner. Maybe 2 in gts2 and I've been soloing in ptb. Mid a had a pretty good gts2 last time I went to vir. I'll probably catch ya at cmp next year
You can take a drive up to NE and come play in PT with me for the time being. Hell i'll even upclass to mess with you in B

With you there's about 5 up here so contingency is possible!

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I would like to try out Hoosier. Been running Gforce R1's only so far and really like them.
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I think theres no point in running A6/R6 tires, or anything like it, if youre only doing HPDE. Also a waste of money. Btw, dont be surprised if you wear/cord them prematurely. It can happen on certain tracks. Setup and experience play a factor also.
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It's a run em if you have em situation. And I have em.

And really why would you run street tires? To ruin them? R6's are made for the track.

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And really why would you run street tires? To ruin them?
Agreed 100%. There comes a point where it is a whole lot less expensive to buy a DOT track tire that will last 3-4 track days than run a street tire that you have to constantly be concerned about chunking.
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I have been running a few sets of A6 in time attack events but on slow/small tracks with tight corners and where the maximum speed is about 170 km/h. They were really good for about 8 minutes, after that they get greasy and lose traction. But they got me my best times over the R6. If you have them, i would say use them and enjoy!
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I dont use this forum regularly so i dont know you. If youre an experienced driver you probably know more than me so disregard what ive said. If not, thats my little bit of input. And i know you said you already bought them. Ill also tell you to do what you want. Regardless of what others tell you from their experience, sometimes you have to do what you want to figure things out for yourself. Sometimes thats what it takes. As far as my thoughts, youre just doing HPDE so you dont need anything more than an NT01 type tire. On top of that you said its for light track duty, even more of a reason to not run them. A total waste for the A6s, and a waste of money. But thats me. And unless things have changed, NT01s are great track tires and theyre cheaper.
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And really why would you run street tires? To ruin them? R6's are made for the track.
I don't see anything in Bueller's comments that would translate as "run street tires". There are a number of R-compounds that are great for HPDEs, cost way less than HooHoos, will last longer, and will take the abuse better than street tires.

Obviously we all have different priorities (and different budgets) when it comes to track events, but my take is pretty much in line with Bueller's. I'm out there to have fun, not to set the quickest lap times, so it just doesn't make sense to spend $$$ on Hoosiers that are $80-100 per tire more expensive.

Now, if you get them for a great deal, then sure, run 'em if you've got 'em. My CTS-V's track wheels have GAC take-offs, which are essentially rebranded R6s, so I guess I'm not completely against Hoosiers.
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Ran my nitto nt01s. And they were great. The Hoosiers would of died for sure. I put 97 miles down at Grattan Speedway in a day.

A6s would be great for a light car or NASA Time Trials only really.
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