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Old 01-28-2001, 12:35 AM   #1
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Cool Streets of Willow Springs Mayhem

I just finished transferring over an hour and a half of track footage to vhs tape. I didn't get any pictures, but I am hopeful that I can get a video capture device soon, and transfer the better spots to mpg.

Was the car as unstable at the track? Well, we did dial out a lot of the snap oversteer by using more conservative front camber settings. The combination of rain, street tires, and aggressive driving did get me in trouble more than once. In all its glory, I captured 4 oversteer situations, one off track excursion, and 3 spins, one into the dirt.

Thursday night, Lloyd and I packed up the Hoosiers, and setoff for Tim's apartment in the LA area. We arrived at midnight, California time, and attempted to get a couple hours worth of sleep before the big event.

We woke up Friday morning to the sound of rain. Great. We had suspected that there would be rain when the local forecast called for 70% chance of showers. YUK! The drive up over the pass to Palmdale found us motoring through a snowstorm. Both Tim and I were able to easily overpower all 4 wheels on the slick surface. Even with the insane weather conditions, we made it to the 8am drivers meeting, and signed in.

The rain let up somewhere in the first session, and by the time we went out onto the track, it had completely stopped. The track conditions were still miserable, being completely wet.

But Subaru's do their best work in low traction conditions.

The event was hosted by the New Celica club of California, and there were a host of Integras, a couple of civics, a slew of Toyota Celica's, and 3 or 4 new MR2s. There was even 1 RX7. 4 Subaru Impreza's ran, and we all were in the 2nd group.

I was getting the hang of the track, and beginning to feel really good. I came up over turn 2, gunned it down the short downhill straight, and stood on the brakes for turn 3. I came in a little hot, and spun the car, keeping it on the track. I made a mental note about the turn.

Later, in the same session, I missed the chicane completely, and took the dirt path through the turn. Ooops.

The 2nd session was much better. With the track finally dry, I was able to push the car to its limits on the corners, judging fairly well the edge of threshold. I found myself battling with a TRD Toyota Celica, and I was able to keep up with him pretty good through most of the track. The big straights saw me losing major ground, as he would pull about a dozen car lengths on me, but by the halfway point, his advantage was gone. Later we gave each other the thumbs up for the great battle. It was a real rush chasing another car around the course.

At lunch, all the Subaru guys got together at Subway, and we talked track strategy over sandwiches.

As a result, in the first afternoon session, I went all out in some areas where I wasn't pushing as hard as before. It had rained while we were at lunch, and the track had become very slippery again. After passing that pesky TRD Toyota, I began to raise the bar another notch, and was blasting my way through the chicane when I caught the inside candy striping and hooked the front end.

This immediately put the car into an unrecoverable spin, at excess of 70mph, and I found myself sliding off the track backwards, and doing another 180 in the dirt. Lloyd and I laughed as we watched the TRD Celica cruise by us. I understand he caught some great footage of the event.

We decided to take a chance, and mount up the Hoosiers in an attempt to break the record of the day. I was timed at 1:49 in the morning session, but a Civic EX 4door on R-Compound tires had pulled a 1:45!!! We couldn't let this guy get top time of day!

We waited for him to go by on the straights, and we shot out of the pits in hot pursuit. For the next 5 laps, we duked it out in a test of who could go faster. By the 4th lap, he had to let me go, and I put a 2 second lead on him by the end of the lap.

The G-Tech recorded an amazing 1.14g of lateral acceleration.

The high rate of Gs was causing some intense fuel starvation, and I finally had to give up the chase due to lack of power. I would come out of a hard right hander, and floor it, only to have half the power on tap I would normally have. I was amazed I was getting such intense starvation on half a tank of gas.

Later, I gave Tim a ride in the car with the Hoosiers, and did a quick 5 laps. Lloyd stood at the start finish line and clocked me at 1:41.5. I had the fastest time of the day!

I paid the price for it though. Even with the 5pt harness, I was sliding side to side in the seat, and I ended up pulling my shoulder. We had to call it a day. It was just as well, we were the last to leave after we got done switching back to my street tires.

The Celicas were FAST. Unfortunately, they could only show this advantage in the 2 short straights on the track. The rest of the time, Subaru torque would save the day.

If we can, we should have our next meet at somebody's house. Maybe do a BBQ and we'll bring the tapes. I am dieing to see the footage at the autocross, and the new footage is definately worth watching.

Anyways, I am tired, my shoulder still hurts, and I am off to bed. Keep it shiny side up!

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Old 01-28-2001, 01:27 AM   #2
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Sounds like a blast Dan. At least there were no serious problems this year.

We are trying to arrange a meet sometime soon, but nothing has been finalized yet.
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Old 01-28-2001, 10:45 AM   #3
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If only people would work with me here.....

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Old 01-28-2001, 11:07 AM   #4
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Sorry Kastle, trying, but I work Tuesday-Saturday from 12:30p to 9:00p, so me getting somewhere during those days will be hard. Although if everyone would show up at Firebird this Friday, we could finally get a concensus of when and where will be the most agreeable.

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Old 01-28-2001, 01:44 PM   #5
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I captured 4 oversteer situations, one off track excursion, and 3 spins, one into the dirt
<center>Yous guys is crazy!</center>

Great report! Sounds like a blast. I'd love to do a track day, but I just don't want to risk smacking the car into a wall right now. Later, maybe. When I can afford to replace it if I have to.

RE: Fuel Starvation.

I had a similar experience at one of the auto-X's last season. There was a full 360 in the course and I took about 270 of it at the edge of traction, nearly sideways. Each time as I'd gas it to leave the turn the engine would stammer for a second then recover. I had about 1/4 to 1/2 tank of gas at the time. Now I try to have about 3/4 tank before going to an event. It's a little more weight, but I've not had any more tank slap.

I definately like the idea of getting together for a BBQ and video party. I have some really cool rally/rallycross footage and I'd love to see Dan's off-course antics. I think the best idea would be to find someone who owns (or possibly rent) a portable TV/VCR and have a BBQ at a local park. I'd volunteer my house, but I think the wife'd have kittens if I invited a dozen or so insane Subaru fanatics over for dinner. Maybe later, after some serious spring cleaning.

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Old 01-29-2001, 12:44 AM   #6
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I attended the Willow Springs event, and I think I'm still high on the adrenaline rush from riding in Dan's car, not to mention trying to keep up with the celicas in the straights, and reeling them in on the turns.

Hey Dan, maybe I can come out to AZ & run a track event with you guys, get a little variety in my track experience.

I liked the Streets of willow, it kept the speeds down below the "Demolish your car if you go off the track" point, which was good for everyone, excepting the Integra with an un-beaded tire from spinning out. No other damages were reported.

Thanks for coming out Dan, it was a blast.

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