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Old 02-24-2014, 03:30 PM   #1
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An interesting Road & Track article at http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...aru-wrx-vs-sti.











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Old 02-24-2014, 03:38 PM   #2
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interesting indeed
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Old 02-24-2014, 03:40 PM   #3
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What was that old thing people used to say? STWhy?

WRX and sti are closer now than they've ever been. Good time to buy a rex, bad time to buy an sti.
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Old 02-24-2014, 03:45 PM   #4
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I think this just further shows that, for now, the WRX is going to be a much better daily driver. The STI is going to be the better track car.

And man oh man, the STI is screaming for the FA20 engine with some bumped up power and a better track based tune. It is going to be a hell of a car... My 2014 WRX will be paid off just about the time I expect to see it...
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Old 02-24-2014, 03:49 PM   #5
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What was that old thing people used to say? STWhy?

WRX and sti are closer now than they've ever been. Good time to buy a rex, bad time to buy an sti.
Are we looking at the same article? This is showing at least that the new WRX isn't as fast as the old WRX was once moving.

Not that I wouldn't take the new engine for its much improved low-end performance...but in terms of peak acceleration, no they aren't as close as they were before. The new WRX is slower, at least in this test, vs. the outgoing model.
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Old 02-24-2014, 03:51 PM   #6
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This just shows that the STi needs a proper FA25DIT!
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Old 02-24-2014, 03:52 PM   #7
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Acceleration 2015 Subaru WRX 2015 Subaru WRX STI 1 Foot (Rollout) 0.2 0.2 Rolling Start, 5–60 MPH 7.0 7.1 0–10 MPH 0.2 0.2 20 0.7 0.6 30 1.5 1.3 40 2.6 2.4 50 3.7 3.3 0–60 MPH 5.2 4.8 70 6.9 6.2 80 8.6 8.2 90 11.2 10.2 100 13.7 12.6 110 17.0 16.2 120 (no data) 20.1 Quarter-Mile 13.7 seconds @ 99.5 MPH 13.3 seconds @ 102.8 mph Top Speed 174 mph (electronically limited) 155 mph (electronically limited)
Read more: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...#ixzz2uH6Zgv00
Ultimately perhaps not as fast as the outgoing WRX, it would appear. Not saying that matters a ton...
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Old 02-24-2014, 03:54 PM   #8
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BTW Cocoa...can someone make a snide remark at you for making this thread after this article has already been posted (in another one of the many threads you created to, by your own words, keep **** like this organized)?
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Are we looking at the same article? This is showing at least that the new WRX isn't as fast as the old WRX was once moving.

Not that I wouldn't take the new engine for its much improved low-end performance...but in terms of peak acceleration, no they aren't as close as they were before. The new WRX is slower, at least in this test, vs. the outgoing model.
I've never seen dyno charts of both on the same dyno in stock form (2013 sti & wrx). I know the previous gen rex was under-rated and faster in the 1/4 and 0-60, but I've never actually seen the charts or anything, just time slips and rumors, so you're probably right in terms of acceleration.

However, this data coupled with the new changes says the wrx is probably nearly as track capable as well, and the 10k difference would be hard to justify.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:01 PM   #10
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BTW Cocoa...can someone make a snide remark at you for making this thread after this article has already been posted (in another one of the many threads you created to, by your own words, keep **** like this organized)?
Two solutions for you:
1) Report it to moderators and hope it gets moved/buried in some other mythical thread focused on measured performance results of both WRX and STI.
2) Ignore it.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:12 PM   #11
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3) CBB takes a joke at his expense without response.

Too late.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:15 PM   #12
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That looks entirely predictable for the STI, and not at all what I expected for the WRX. What happened to full torque at 2K? It peaks a bit earlier, but not much, and then falls over and plays dead. It looks more like what I'd expect from similar engines with different size turbos.
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That looks entirely predictable for the STI, and not at all what I expected for the WRX. What happened to full torque at 2K? It peaks a bit earlier, but not much, and then falls over and plays dead. It looks more like what I'd expect from similar engines with different size turbos.
Yeah, they were off by about 3K rpm
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:27 PM   #14
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174MPH top speed for the WRX, LOL. DANG.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:28 PM   #15
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Two solutions for you:
1) Report it to moderators and hope it gets moved/buried in some other mythical thread focused on measured performance results of both WRX and STI.
2) Ignore it.
I'm just saying, perhaps you should stop being an ass every time someone re-posts something you posted first, while you yourself do the very same thing without apology.


(In addition to the absolutely ridiculous amount of new threads you create on the same damn topic all day long. )
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That looks entirely predictable for the STI, and not at all what I expected for the WRX. What happened to full torque at 2K? It peaks a bit earlier, but not much, and then falls over and plays dead. It looks more like what I'd expect from similar engines with different size turbos.
****ty stock subaru tune. No surprise there. They seem to have a special knack for torque dips now .
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174MPH top speed for the WRX, LOL. DANG.


They tested in a vacuum.



Oh wait...
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I think this just further shows that, for now, the WRX is going to be a much better daily driver. The STI is going to be the better track car.

And man oh man, the STI is screaming for the FA20 engine with some bumped up power and a better track based tune. It is going to be a hell of a car... My 2014 WRX will be paid off just about the time I expect to see it...
This, I agree... coming from an 11 sti... I can't truly justify buying it for my purposes.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:32 PM   #19
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They tested in a vacuum.



Oh wait...
I thought the WRX would fly and flip into the stratosphere without t3h park bench...

All I know is I'm glad I was not riding shotgun for the 174mph run! I'da left a skid marks all over.
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How come HP and trq don't cross at 5252 RPM for the WRX?
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How come HP and trq don't cross at 5252 RPM for the WRX?
They do, different HP/TQ scales on the left and right of the graph.
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I thought the WRX would fly and flip into the stratosphere without t3h park bench...

All I know is I'm glad I was not riding shotgun for the 174mph run! I'da left a skid marks all over.
It definitely doesn't do 174 with 260 HP. I think that's the theoretical gear-limited number, at least I'd assume that's what that is.
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It definitely doesn't do 174 with 260 HP.
I know - pretty sure they meant 147mph...

It woulda been a physics marvel! Behold the magical WRX - defying all laws/rules as we know them!
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They do, different HP/TQ scales on the left and right of the graph.
Thats why it looks weird....
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:40 PM   #25
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Do we really care about stock for stock? Which one will give a greater experience once I start modding? You know things like stronger short block or metal vs plastic components.
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