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Old 02-26-2001, 10:48 AM   #1
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Post MY98 Phase I DOHC problems cropping up everywhere, (attn Spectre23)

In lieu of Spec's ongoing problem with his Phase I DOHC, i've run across several interesting threads in two forums that have lead me to believe that this engine will prematurely fail, without fail.

This thread in the i-club forums highlights some oddities: http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Foru...ML/001692.html

This thread in the Vishnuperformance forums has even more damning evidence of problems: http://www.vishnuperformance.com/ubb...ML/000523.html

IMHO, SOA should recall these engines and replace them with Phase II SOHC versions, but they probably never will.

Yet another reason to swap in a WRX or Legacy Turbo engine, eh?
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Old 02-26-2001, 05:14 PM   #2
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hmm i havent had any issues with my98 RS as of yet??? when and what mileage did this occur do you know?? i am curious.
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Old 02-27-2001, 10:02 AM   #3
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Well, mine was 81,000 miles. I drag raced for 1 year and autocrossed for 1 year. I am generally hard on it at all times. So if you drive Miss Daisy, you will probably be OK for quit some time.

Just talked to the mechanic fixing mine. 3 of my cylinders are burning antifreeze. Should be fixed by tomorrow.

ARG!

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Old 02-27-2001, 01:55 PM   #4
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Sounds good Spec, glad to hear that it's probably the gasket after all.
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Old 02-27-2001, 07:12 PM   #5
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Spec,

Did you end up having it fixed by Mark Miller, or did you have to go somewhere else? (And if so, where?)
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Old 02-28-2001, 12:40 AM   #6
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Thats good that you are going to get it fixed. Anybody going for that legacy turbo motor?

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Old 02-28-2001, 12:59 AM   #7
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I don't think so. Also, I asked about the front cross member. They want $150 for it. The engine looked pretty clean and in pretty good shape visually. It would need a new Power steering fluid canister, and belt guard, but those should be easy to find. They still haven't pulled the engine out of the car so it has been covered and not snowed on like all the other engines there.
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Old 02-28-2001, 07:05 AM   #8
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Actually it is a kind of funny story. I had a business card stuck to my window when I went to Sears to get some tools about a month ago. Well, I call the guy up and he asks me if mine is the blue '98 with the gold wheels that lives around 80th South. I tell him I am and he gets all excited and says he used to live close to me and saw my car all the time and he says he has been dying to work on it. Well, I go into his shop and he has a bunch of Saabs in there and a nice huge Subaru rally car poster. He tells me about his experience driving the "Subaru rally car" while he was in Phoenix. I think it was just the WRX, notthe rally car. I talked to his wife while he was in the back for a couple minutes. She said he was was there until midnight the night before finishing other cars up to get them out of the way because he was so excited to work on my car. Well, he seemed like a good guy that loved my car, so he is the one fixing my car. The place is called A&C Automotive. The guy's name is Charles. He is from a British country. It is a small little place and he pretty much only works on Saab and Subaru. I will let you guys know if I think he is any good. So far I like him, but we will see. I like his labor rate. I think he is only charging me like $40/hr.
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Old 02-28-2001, 01:02 PM   #9
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That is great news for all those willing to allow somebody to work on their cars. Will having the timing off by 1 tooth cause 3 of 4 cylinders to have antifreeze in them? (or is that a different post from a different person I read?)

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Old 02-28-2001, 01:43 PM   #10
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No, I think the anti-freeze in the cylinders is from the blown head gasket, not the timing being off. I don't know what the timing being off would do other than alter the power and bend the valves if off bad enough.
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Oh, ok. So your head gasket is still bad, but he noticed that your timing was off as well.

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Perhaps he'd be a good guy to have do my waterpump/oilpump seal/timing belt/underdrive pulley install. I don't think it's really hard, but i don't trust the dealer or myself to do the job right.

It's nice to find someone who's excited to work on performance vehicles.
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Uh, lincoln woodard (@ PRE in orem) was really excited to do the suspension on my car. That was a horrible and grueling experience. Just because they are excited doesn't mean they are capable. I just want to make sure everybody realizes this. Of course, everytime I went into PRE, I got the idea that they didn't know what they were talking about. I'd mention stromung and I'd get the response " stromung... never heard of them before".

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Old 03-01-2001, 12:10 AM   #14
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UPDATE:
Well, I talked to my mechanic. I like this guy more everytime we talk. He said my block and heads are fine. He said Mark Miller had my timing off on the driver's side by 1 tooth. He also said Mark Miller (dumb a*ses deluxe) over-torqued every bolt they touched. He said he will properly torque all the bolts and since I race he is going to put green loctite on them so they will be tough to get out but be torqued correctly.
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Sounds like we have a new resource for affordable work on Subarus!
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