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Old 02-20-2001, 01:34 AM   #1
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Exclamation I've been giving some very serious thought to relocating to the DFW Metroplex area...

I was out there a few weeks last year, and just got back from a week long trip courtesy of PacBell for a Lucent CBX 500 class... I got to thinking about how things compare between here in San Diego and out in DFW...

1: Jobs: Biggie. I work in the telecomm field. San Diego and Dallas have TONS of telecomm and computer jobs. Pay rates are VERY similar.
Advantage: neither (well, DFW really, read on)

2: Housing costs: No contest.For what I could sell my 1100 square foot condo for here in SD, I could buy a freaking mansion in nice areas of DFW. After paying off debts and realtor's fees, I'd have about 90-100K left to put down on a house. Basically, I could buy a house outright, and not have any other outstanding debts. Not gonna happen anytime soon here in Cali. Especially with the housing prices going up the way they are right now.
Advantage: DFW

3: Cost of living: Gas is definitely cheaper, $1.32 a gallon for regular when I was out there Friday. Food's about the same, maybe a bit cheaper. Prices on other items vary, but it's cheaper overall.
Advantage: DFW

4: Dating/social scene. Ohhhhhh yeah. Dunno if it's all the good paying tech jobs, or the fact that there're about 9 large colleges in the DFW metroplex area, but from what I observed, the ratio of women:men is a lot higher in DFW than it is in SD. That, and the attitude is different, more laid back (if you can imagine that) than here. I went to a lot of places around town, and never got any of the "You ain't from around here" vibe. People were generally really friendly, and easy to talk to.
Advantage: DFW

5: Cars/smog: No contest. If I can't smog it in one county, I can drive half an hour to another one and get a smog cert from another county. Also, no visual inspection. If it passes the sniffer, it's all good. Can we get a "Hell yes!"? I knew we could!
Advantage: DFW

6: Weather. Well, DFW gets it's ass handed to it in this department. San Diego is famed for it's mild year round weather. DFW is pretty nice in spring/fall, but winters can get really nasty, witness the recent ice storms, and summers get to be blazingly hot and humid, not to mention the occasional tornado and monsoon rain. I've lived in hot and humid climates, (Knoxville in late August, worse than DFW, IMO), and it's not impossible to live in, merely unpleasant.
Advantage: San Diego

7: Crime; Ever since former gov. George W. Bush put it in the hands of the citizens of Texas as to whether or not to allow concealed weapons, (which the citizens of Texas overwhelmingly voted for), crimes like rape, mugging, carjacking and so forth have dropped 15-20% a year. That, and since I own guns, and the senate and house in Cali are so far in left field they make Marx look conservative, I appreciate the bias of the law towards the ordinary citizen. I heard one story from a Texan at the SBC school where a guy was held up at gunpoint in a mall parking lot, and another guy a few cars down pulled out his licensed gun and killed the robber. Doesn't take many incidents like that to put the damper on carjacking and such. Hell, here in Cali, I need to be stabbed or shot if I shoot someone who's broken into my house and is robbing me, or else the cops are as likely to cuff me and charge me with attempted murder as they are to throw the book at the scumbag who was trying to rob me.
Advantage: DFW (all of Texas, really)

I know it sounds like I'm looking for excuses to justify moving, but really, I'm getting pretty sick of all the BS that California's dishing out. The lunatic smog laws, the idiots in the legislature, the ever increasing cost of proeprty and never ending tax increases, the miserable dating scene and gold digging hootchies... Sure, maybe the weather in Texas sucks a few months out of the year, but it makes up for it in other ways.

So, basically, if/when I do decide to move, what areas are good in the DFW area? I've heard names like Grapevine, Lewisville, Irving, and so on. What're the decent to really nice parts of town, and how much do houses cost in them?
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Old 02-20-2001, 03:26 AM   #2
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Damn dude... I think that was one of the longest posts I've ever read on here. =) Must have taken you awhile to type all that. And yes, you are absolutely correct on all of your points. I also work in the telecom industry (MCI WorldCom), and yes, there are an abundance of opportunities here in this area. I work in the Infomart near downtown, and in that building alone there are MANY opportunities. =) As far as the housing thing goes, GENERALLY speaking, anything above or below the 635 loop are going to be approx. the same. There are of course exceptions to that. Plano/Richardson being one. That is a major telecom area. My brother in law lives in Plano, and his house really wasn't all that expensive. It really all depends on what you want. There are always deals to be had. But in general, that area is a bit higher when it comes to real estate. I live in Lewisville, and I'm kinda partial to it. Everyone will have an opinion to give on the whole thing, so good old fashioned research is gonna be your best bet. Good luck man, and I hope your decision making doesn't keep you up too many nights. =)


PS: Sorry I wasn't able to meet ya on your last trip, wasn't a great week for that sorta thing for me. I think you said in your other post that you might be coming back, so maybe next time...
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Old 02-20-2001, 06:30 AM   #3
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Terry, you are so right! the thing I hate most about this state, say compared to southern california (especially SD) is the climate/the bugs/and the scenery.

Lets face it, San Diego is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. with that come the high housing rates... which if you cash in... will lead to a phat ass place here in North Texas that we can all party at

Job opportunity/ pay is equal but the cost of living is so much lower here. If you can get the transfer, your bank account and your happiness of extra $$$ will definitly benefit.

Also, CobbTuning is here in D/FW... BONUS!

With all that extra $$$ you can help me build up my car


I'm really sorry we couldnt meet up a few weeks ago, it was really good talking to you, unfortunately mid week is never a good time for most of us.
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Old 02-20-2001, 07:51 AM   #4
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Plano & Los Colinas are a couple of really nice places to live.

Plano is north of Dallas (just north of Richardson, aka 'telecom corridor') and much nicer than Richardson, IMHO.

Los Colinas is is nicer part of Irving (close to everything, really).

Dunno about prices on buying houses, since I rent but I've heard $200,000 for a nice place in Los Colinas or Irving. (but don't take my word for it, I'm just talking out of my ass)
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Old 02-20-2001, 08:14 AM   #5
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Digital_boy, it looks like no contest. The next thing you need to do is fly down to Houston on March 3-4 for the meet. If your gonna move here you need to meet the whole Tx crew. I will be more than happy to take you to and from Hobby airport.
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Old 02-20-2001, 09:47 AM   #6
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great to hear we might get a new 'brother' in the fold. we texans are also a lot friendlier that those in calli...one more plus! can't wait to meet you and check out the L/RS Turbo hybred i've heard so much about...and like Chris(subpreza) said, we would LOVE to see one more at the "meet", we have almost 50 RS's commited to be here from all over the state, and i'm sure everyone else is just as excited about meet you as we are!

hope to see you soon,
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Old 02-20-2001, 10:03 AM   #7
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Hope you relocate. when i c ur name on a post i know its going to be a good one, well thought out, informative, ect. We need all the informed scoobie guys here we can muster. Besides you have Cobb and CTC (i want a MRT exhaust bad)here.

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Old 02-21-2001, 10:12 AM   #8
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C.... I told YOU!!
Tx is IT!!
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