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Old 05-22-2014, 09:39 PM   #1
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Hey guys. As you all know TIC introduced a new coilover from HVT for us 02-07 wrx/sti guys.
I was fortunate enough to be able to buy someones preordered setup on the 1st batch and just got word that they are starting to ship out. (After many months!)

I would like to save this for reviews on the product but since no one has them yet I think we can start the discussion by initial first impressions that led you to preorder a set like I have.

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Ill start by saying the reason I ordered these is HVT is a reputable north american sister company of AST holland.

They both make very quality stuff in that regard.

These are a european style damper made in the usa with quality materials and quality craftsmanship.

Also a good selling point was the simplicity of them as well as advertised comfort being setup for the perfect daily driver / weekend warrior.

I sold my dspecs and yellows to fund this purchase due to wanting to change ride height when winter comes around and not having very much fun in the snow with a lowered car.
Ill add more if I can think of any initial impressions.
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I got mine shipped out today from tic... paid extra but need them by next week for install and track day June 2nd. I'll post an update with pictures most likely Monday and full review next week. Been a long time waiting.
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I got mine shipped out today from tic... paid extra but need them by next week for install and track day June 2nd. I'll post an update with pictures most likely Monday and full review next week. Been a long time waiting.
Excellent. I paid 8 bux extra for new conical washers. I asked them to ship them out assembled and ready to drop in. Greg said no problem and they will ship out monday!
Congrats on the purchase. I took advantage of someones preorder that sold their car and got about $150 off the price they paid.
You mentioned a track day. I read that these can be used for mild tracking but are not a track built coil.
What are your thoughts in that regard?
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These are a european style damper made in the usa with quality materials and quality craftsmanship.
What does this even mean? I'm guessing it's similar to the car manufacturers marketing. Similar to the 'Honda Accord Euro'.....
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Old 05-23-2014, 12:11 AM   #6
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What does this even mean? I'm guessing it's similar to the car manufacturers marketing. Similar to the 'Honda Accord Euro'.....
No. Its the valving, spring rate and stroke.

Longer stroke, and lighter rate vs a japanese style dampening. Heavy ass spring rates, short stroke....no movement. Might as well weld the knuckle to the frame with unistrut.

Supposed to be more supple like a european sports car. Mercedes/bmw wise vs tuna can racecar lol.
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:27 AM   #7
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But most Japanes cars run ample travel and very soft spring rates.
Look at Impreza, Legacy/Libetry, Corolla (most sold car worldwide), Yaris, (new age) Civic, MX5, Mazda 3, Mazda 5, Not to mention Land Cruiser 100 and 200 which both dominated Dakar production due to their great chassis and suspension.

Do these HVT really have longer stroke and lighter rate than a standard Subaru which is both made in Japan and runs Japanese style shocks from a Japanese shock company (although I'll admit I can't confirm the country the shock is psychically made in).
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Excellent. I paid 8 bux extra for new conical washers. I asked them to ship them out assembled and ready to drop in. Greg said no problem and they will ship out monday!
Congrats on the purchase. I took advantage of someones preorder that sold their car and got about $150 off the price they paid.
You mentioned a track day. I read that these can be used for mild tracking but are not a track built coil.
What are your thoughts in that regard?
Yeah I only plan to track once or twice a year, and my car is not a full on race car, but a daily/weekend fun car. Its just I had this day planned, and thought I would have the coils within their expected 2 months, so now I'm rushing because my BC's are blown....again.

I'm not looking to set any records but to have fun and learn how to drive better (this is my third day ever). My car is a daily driver 99% of the time, so I didn't want anything too stiff either. So a track day should at least give me good info for prospective buyers.
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These are not a track built coilover, neither are most of the coilovers bolted to your average Subaru. They are however a well constructed set of dampers with plenty of stroke and chassis specific damping characteristics. Spring rate isn't everything. Assuming you aren't going out on track with a 265 wide R comp these will be fine for the entry level trackday enthusiast.

I'm excited for other people out there to get their hands on these things. I've been enjoying the prototype set since December and with the feedback given to HVT from TurninConcepts the delivered sets are going to be fantastic.
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But most Japanes cars run ample travel and very soft spring rates.
Look at Impreza, Legacy/Libetry, Corolla (most sold car worldwide), Yaris, (new age) Civic, MX5, Mazda 3, Mazda 5, Not to mention Land Cruiser 100 and 200 which both dominated Dakar production due to their great chassis and suspension.

Do these HVT really have longer stroke and lighter rate than a standard Subaru which is both made in Japan and runs Japanese style shocks from a Japanese shock company (although I'll admit I can't confirm the country the shock is psychically made in).
Well im not comparing it to stock. I havent ridden them yet. I was comparing them to every other general set up people would be running. These have a lot more travel than most of the low budget tiwanese coilovers. **** if I could find coilovers that resembled stock wrx comfort.....bring em on!
These are supposed to give around the same stroke as dspecs and yellows which is one of the best lowered strut and spring combos. But I am only looking to compare these to equal priced coilovers for now until us preorder folk get some hands on experience like eric.

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when are more going to be available? i really need a quality suspension for my car
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when are more going to be available? i really need a quality suspension for my car
They just shipped out the first preorder batch from months ago. Idk if they are still taking 2nd batch orders or if its closed now. Call turn in concepts and ask.
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But most Japanes cars run ample travel and very soft spring rates.
Why would you think he was comparing the HVT coilovers to factory Corolla/Impreza/Land Cruiser/etc dampers and springs?

Anyone who has any experience with aftermarket suspensions knows that there is a marked difference between the philosophy of the European companies (AST, Koni, KW, etc) and the Asian companies (Tein, Cusco, JIC, etc) when it comes to damping and spring rates.
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Why would you think he was comparing the HVT coilovers to factory Corolla/Impreza/Land Cruiser/etc dampers and springs?

Anyone who has any experience with aftermarket suspensions knows that there is a marked difference between the philosophy of the European companies (AST, Koni, KW, etc) and the Asian companies (Tein, Cusco, JIC, etc) when it comes to damping and spring rates.

I agree that suspension philosophy is different in different markets. Then certain markets seem that have more experience than others.

By the way I noticed that the Nissan GTR, one of Japan's finest sports car, is using Bilstein shocks
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I agree that suspension philosophy is different in different markets. Then certain markets seem that have more experience than others.

By the way I noticed that the Nissan GTR, one of Japan's finest sports car, is using Bilstein shocks
http://www.bilstein.co.jp/en/spl/86brz.html

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For that much money I hope it would be electronic controlled adjustments lol
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Bump. Any more first impression reviews?
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Mine going in today.
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So I just got my coilovers installed today and wow, what a difference. I previously had BC BR with swift springs and these feel completely different. The BC's were SO bouncy compared to these. Even the KW v1, and H&R's I've had feel nothing as nice as this. The HVT's absorb all the little bumps and dips in the road so well, I feel like I'm driving a different car. The dampening is soo good and there is no bouncy feel and absorbs all the dips with ease. The HVTs soft on the road and yet so composed in the corners. I think this has been the best $1000 I've ever spent on the car. The original tester said it feels like a 3 series. They definitely have a solid German car feel to it.

Tracking the car Monday as well with AZP. Should be a blast.

Picking up the fiancee later who usually hates sitting in my car. I'm sure they'll pass the wife test lol. For those who need a coil that is comfortable with good performance, this is it.

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So I just got my coilovers installed today and wow, what a difference. I previously had BC BR with swift springs and these feel completely different. The BC's were SO bouncy compared to these. Even the KW v1, and H&R's I've had feel nothing as nice as this. The HVT's absorb all the little bumps and dips in the road so well, I feel like I'm driving a different car. The dampening is soo good and there is no bouncy feel and absorbs all the dips with ease. The HVTs soft on the road and yet so composed in the corners. I think this has been the best $1000 I've ever spent on the car. The original tester said it feels like a 3 series. They definitely have a solid German car feel to it.

Tracking the car Monday as well with AZP. Should be a blast.

Picking up the fiancee later who usually hates sitting in my car. I'm sure they'll pass the wife test lol. For those who need a coil that is comfortable with good performance, this is it.
Awesome first impression review. Excellent ride height and just what I wanted to hear as far as comfort goes.

Thank you!
I look forward to hearing how they perform on the track.
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I've been driving around, deliberately going over pot holes and its as if there weren't there or just a blip in the road. Totally opposite form the previous swerve and pray...so glad the BC's are in my trunk now.
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I've been driving around, deliberately going over pot holes and its as if there weren't there or just a blip in the road. Totally opposite form the previous swerve and pray...so glad the BC's are in my trunk now.
Thats great news. Some potholes make me cringe with a good strut and spring combo even. What tophats or plates are you running?
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Whiteline Comp C fr, Group N rear.

Just hurry n get them on and let us know what you think :P
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Whiteline Comp C fr, Group N rear.

Just hurry n get them on and let us know what you think :P
Still waiting for tic. They should be in transit. I got the exact same package. I hope whiteline fixed their com c bearing clunk issue.
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