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Old 12-07-2015, 11:17 AM   #1
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The official successor of the BMW 1M, the recently unveiled 2016 BMW M2 which has been already proven a great success on the market, will be dropped in 2020, according to the German media.


reliable source that maintains this statement is bmwarchiv.de as well, which is a well-known source in the auto industry dealing with the most accurate information on different auto subjects.

We should have expected such news, especially because the M2 Coupe was considered a limited model since its early beginning, a couple of months back. In its five years of existence, the model will be manufactured in just 2,200 units every year, reaching a total of 11,000 cars.


We are not sure if the model will be discontinued just to make room for a replacement or a future M2 Convertible, but the latter one seems more plausible, as other models have gotten their own convertible versions as well, just like the M4 or M6.

As a reminder, the 2016 BMW M2 Coupe comes with an extremely hot design built by the car`s M division. Inside, the M signature is also visible on the coupe`s Dakota Black leather steering wheel, sports seats, door sills, footrest, gearshift level and so on.

Under the hood, the 2016 M2 Coupe is packed with a 3.0-liter turbocharged inline six-cylinder engine, which outputs 370 horsepower and 465 Nm of torque.

The engine can be equipped with a six-speed manual, allowing a sprint from 0 to 100 km/h in 4.5 seconds. The optional seven-speed M Double Clutch transmission with Drivelogic helps the M2 reach 100 km/h in just 4.3 seconds. The topping also stands at 250 km.
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Old 12-07-2015, 02:08 PM   #2
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At least they're making it known so people can plan accordingly
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Old 12-07-2015, 02:26 PM   #3
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What did they really tell us? A 5 model year run, like most of the M cars. No news there.

When they make a new 2 series, if this one sells, there will likely be another M off of it. Just like any other series.
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Any news on how easy or much is on the table with these soap? IIRC previous 335i's were beasts with just a tune.
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Old 12-07-2015, 02:32 PM   #5
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Any news on how easy or much is on the table with these soap? IIRC previous 335i's were beasts with just a tune.
Supposed to be a reworked engine, so until what they threw at it and which turbos they went with is known it's all SWAGs til then. And even when we do know that information it'll still be SWAGs until someone throws moar boost and some downpipes at it.
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Old 12-07-2015, 03:40 PM   #6
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What did they really tell us? A 5 model year run, like most of the M cars. No news there.
Some moron "journalist" had to fill a quota, I think.
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:50 PM   #7
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Any news on how easy or much is on the table with these soap? IIRC previous 335i's were beasts with just a tune.
Well, older N54 335s were, newer N55s, still decent, but not nearly as much headroom.

As posted above, all depends if they up-sized the (single) turbo over the "regular" N55.

No one knows anything yet. On a somewhat related note, the 340 (and upcoming 240) are looking pretty strong stock, and tuned. So hopefully that means they gave the M2 more. For reference, that B58 did 330 whp stock and 380 whp on a first crack tune on BMS's dyno recently. Rated at 320.

Hopefully, we'll see an "N55" (what's in a name) in the M2 making more like 370 horse at the wheels vs. the crank out of the box.

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Old 12-14-2015, 01:41 PM   #8
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do they actually put a LSD in this car? I can't remember and am to lazy to look it up...
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do they actually put a LSD in this car? I can't remember and am to lazy to look it up...
No, the M2 gets the full-M active differential. No LSD.

LSD was an option on the M235i.

The M2 is between the M3 and M235i at 365HP 343 ft-lbs. It's a built N55 motor with pretty much different *everything*.
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Active M diff is an electronic clutched VTD type thingy?
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Active M diff is an electronic clutched VTD type thingy?
This is what I thought too ^^ dang it now im gonna have to search WTH NASIOC!
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No, the M2 gets the full-M active differential. No LSD.

LSD was an option on the M235i.

The M2 is between the M3 and M235i at 365HP 343 ft-lbs. It's a built N55 motor with pretty much different *everything*.
The "Active" differential is absolutely still an LSD, it's just has electronically adjustable locking.

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Active M diff is an electronic clutched VTD type thingy?
Nah, not like a spool with clutched outputs like a focus RS. It's more of a traditional plate LSD with adjustable locking.

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do they actually put a LSD in this car? I can't remember and am to lazy to look it up...
All M cars get/have gotten LSDs...even this one.
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All M cars get/have gotten LSDs...even this one.
maybe I mistakenly recall the review of the 235i M badged car that Chris Harris did...nevermind nothing to see here just a crazy Monday
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Ahh...BMW's marketing tricks are working then.

The "M235" is not an M-division car. The M2, the replacement for the 1M, is an actual "M" car.

The M235 is more or less a 235 with an M-sport package. Although it does have some other nice things, like a stronger crank and optional LSD that, for example, the N55 135 Msport or a 335 M sport didn't get (although the N54 135/335 had a forged crank). Oh, and they painted the calipers blue.

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Ahh...BMW's marketing tricks are working then.

The "M235" is not an M-division car. The M2, the replacement for the 1M, is an actual "M" car.

The M235 is more or less a 235 with an M-sport package. Although it does have some other nice things, like a stronger crank and optional LSD that, for example, the N55 135 Msport or a 335 M sport didn't get (although the N54 135/335 had a forged crank). Oh, and they painted the calipers blue.
Sir, leave my blue calipers alone.

I must say though that this car generates so much damn brake dust that the wheels and calipers are usually gun metal.
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Sir, leave my blue calipers alone.

I must say though that this car generates so much damn brake dust that the wheels and calipers are usually gun metal.
I'd take 'em, they look good. I'd love to have your car in general.

I know, BMW has changed the pads on many of the E90-based platforms to a much less dusty compound recently. Our N55 X1 has updated pads up front (clean wheels) and older style pads in the rear (dirty as all hell after a few days). It looks ridiculous.

I'm not sure if they changed over compounds on the M235 though...very well may not have for performance reasons.
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Pretty much every BMW I've seen has black front wheels and slightly less silver rear wheels.

The pads that came on my Lexus though? Jesus, I've never seen dust like that.
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Pretty much every BMW I've seen has black front wheels and slightly less silver rear wheels.
A product of them driving like women!

Rant incoming!

You typically see that on most cars, as obviously the fronts are doing the most braking. Most cars use up front pads, what, 2-3 to 1 vs. rears?

On BMWs without a mechanical LSD, hard driving means wearing out rear pads faster, as they're constantly being used up in the ediff capacity. On the track, forget it, they eat rear brakes for breakfast. Take a look at the size of the rear rotors on a 335...no surprise they're so huge now.
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You typically see that on most cars, as obviously the fronts are doing the most braking. Most cars use up front pads, what, 2-3 to 1 vs. rears?
Duh, but it was more of a comment on the pad compounds/dust.
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Duh, but it was more of a comment on the pad compounds/dust.
Of course, wasn't trying to imply that wasn't well known.
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Ah yes, don't miss that brake dust that my '10 135 spewed. Nowhere near as bad as my '05 STi's Brembos created though. Holy cow. I'd back that thing out of the garage after cleaning it and I swear there'd be new brake dust on there.
"Why are you washing your car again? It's clean!"
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But it's all worth it when you stomp on 'em.
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After VIR the carbotech pads i had were obviously not good enough for another session. I ran them on the street until they wore out.

The dust and squeeling was insane. My wife would literally cover her face when we stopped at a corner with people standing there.
There was no keeping the rims clean.
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