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Old 09-10-2019, 06:55 AM   #1
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BMW has given us the clearest look yet at its redesigned 4-Series with the Concept 4 unveiled on Tuesday at the Frankfurt International Motor Show.

It's a bold representation of the upcoming coupe and we're sure the oversized grille will prove controversial. The vertical design takes inspiration from sporting BMWs of the past like the pre-war 328 and 3.0 CSi of the 1970s.

The kidney grille has always been a signature feature of BMW cars,” said Domagoj Dukec, BMW's head of design. “The BMW Concept 4 presents a confident and classy take on this iconic feature. At the same time, the BMW Concept 4 offers a look ahead to the expressive face of the 4-Series range.”

Judging by our spy shots of prototypes for the new 4-Series, the look will be toned down significantly for production. The same is likely true for the concept's rear which looks to be losing its pronounced ducktail spoiler on the road to production.



Other elements of the concept that we likely won't see in production are the impossibly thin side mirrors and open headlights. The LEDs of the headlights feature no glass cover; instead they are worked into the body to create a jewel-like appearance.

With the reveal of the Concept 4, BMW is clearly signalling that the 4-Series it will spawn won't simply resemble a two-door 3-Series. The car is expected to debut next summer and sales should commence in late 2020 or early the following year.


BMW Concept 4
A new 4-Series Convertible is also planned and likely a new 4-Series Gran Coupe as well. It's possible the latter will be offered exclusively as an electric model badged an i4








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Old 09-10-2019, 06:56 AM   #2
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Old 09-10-2019, 07:16 AM   #3
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BMW: With this grill, the ugly on our vehicles all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...

Consumer: Oh, I see. And the ugliness of most cars go up to ten?

BMW: Exactly.

Consumer: Does that mean it's uglier? Is it any uglier?

BMW: Well, it's one uglier, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be designing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your Civic Type R. Where can you go from there? Where?

Consumer: I don't know.

BMW: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?

Consumer: Put it up to eleven?

BMW: Eleven. Exactly. One uglier.

Consumer: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little uglier?

BMW: [pause] These grills go to eleven.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:03 AM   #4
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LOL

I think BMW is going to double-down on that ugly-ass grille throughout the line-up.

I need to get my ‘20 or ‘21 M2C before they wreck the 2 series!

Horrible, BMW.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:46 AM   #5
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i have a better-looking one of those.

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Old 09-10-2019, 10:50 AM   #6
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I think BMW is going to double-down on that ugly-ass grille throughout the line-up.

I need to get my ‘20 or ‘21 M2C before they wreck the 2 series!

Horrible, BMW.
Watch the M2 get bloated as **** and BMW releases a M1 which essentially takes the place of an M2.

Btw: expect the 2021 M2 to go up significantly in price. I believe the competition is getting replaced with a CSL or the likes. Supposedly carbon ceramic brakes will be an option. Solid pass
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Old 09-10-2019, 11:44 AM   #7
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Just like Lexus' ugly ass grill, it will be on all of their cars, and will eventually just be accepted. Until then, expect the only comments on this car to be about it's grill.
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Old 09-10-2019, 12:55 PM   #8
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BMW: With this grill, the ugly on our vehicles all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...

Consumer: Oh, I see. And the ugliness of most cars go up to ten?

BMW: Exactly.

Consumer: Does that mean it's uglier? Is it any uglier?

BMW: Well, it's one uglier, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be designing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your Civic Type R. Where can you go from there? Where?

Consumer: I don't know.

BMW: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?

Consumer: Put it up to eleven?

BMW: Eleven. Exactly. One uglier.

Consumer: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little uglier?

BMW: [pause] These grills go to eleven.


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Old 09-10-2019, 03:35 PM   #9
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It looks like a caricature rendition.
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I like that they are going back to the vertical kidneys. That's how they always were, but I just don't understand why they need to make them look like they should be on a Tonka Truck. Good idea, terrible execution. Otherwise, I think the car's shape looks pretty good. And yes, it's looking like a bloated, toy truck version of the Q60S.
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Found a pic of the head designer for this project:

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BBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA . I can't stop laughing. Ohh how I remember all the BMW Fanboi's making fun of the Lexus Grill. LCI will be coming before the model launch.

Let me snap out if it "it's just a concept, it's just a concept, this will not make it to production"
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Watch the M2 get bloated as **** and BMW releases a M1 which essentially takes the place of an M2.

Btw: expect the 2021 M2 to go up significantly in price. I believe the competition is getting replaced with a CSL or the likes. Supposedly carbon ceramic brakes will be an option. Solid pass
Surely they won’t REPLACE the mainstream M2C with a CSL, right? CSL will be limited prod I thought, of which I have no desire for.
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Tell us what BMW people really care about. Does it have a 15" screen or a 21" screen. BMW is the ultimate mobility device now. Does it have WIFI. These are things BMW people actually care about!
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:19 AM   #16
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BMW = (for most) the badge. Nothing more.
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Surely they won’t REPLACE the mainstream M2C with a CSL, right? CSL will be limited prod I thought, of which I have no desire for.
The badging just seems to indicate a new updated model. M2 -> M2 LCI -> M2C M2CS -> M2CSL (possibly launched mid year if CS).
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