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Old 09-11-2000, 11:22 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Boeing AutoX - You think you're a great driver, until...

It's all fun and games until you get three DNFs and two mediocre runs at the AutoX. I mean, come on...how hard can it be to remember? Do the first loop twice, do the second loop twice, finish. Toss a couple slaloms and hairpins in for good measure, a 120 degree turn at the finish line and viola...the AutoX from hell!

Granted, it's only my third event, but I was hoping for better than sixtieth-something place out of seventy-something drivers in PAX. First run...did the first loop once, missed the exit gate to the slalom and did the second loop twice (DNF/OC). Second run, did the first loop once and the second loop twice (DNF/OC). Third run, did the first loop twice (yay!) and the second loop three times (DNF/OC).

Runs four and five, followed the advice of Sean and Kelley, backed off a little, kept it in second, took it easy and pulled low sixty second times plus a cone or two. Overall, I'm extremely happy with my last run except for skidding into the 120 degree exit to the finish line, taking out a few cones and having to get into reverse to stay on course. Whups! A possible 59 second run turned into a 64+2.

So, I had fun. But I realized just how much driving style has to be adapted for each course. My first event was Boeing...extremely tight with no straights. My second event was Nazarath...one big straight with a hairpin at the end. I did quite well at both of those events.

But my third event...Boeing again...looked faster than it actually was. I was still driving like I was at Nazareth. Wide open and taking the turns way too fast. The car would understeer to a slow crawl and I'd have to downshift to get any speed back. That combined with the fact that I was still thinking about the first course at Boeing I ran equaled me sucking.

Guh. So, why am I posting this? No reason. Am I ranting? Not really. I guess I'm just admitting in public that I've got a lot to learn. Just a word of warning to all the "expert" drivers out there.

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Old 09-11-2000, 11:52 AM   #2
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I'll rant with you Sean. I had 2 DNF's and one cone hit. I think getting there at 9 and not racing until 1 made me think too much. But thats all about being a Novice. I guess anybody can sit back and look at the stupid mistakes they made and get mad. But there is always the next one.

To help you fix ur problem do this... go to ur trunk and open it up. then repeat after me, "BAD MONKEY". It always helps passing the blame around
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Old 09-11-2000, 12:30 PM   #3
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sounds like a cool corse.. although difficult..
i hit 9 cones slidding through the finish on one of my laps this weekend.
Just missed the timing light (yay!)
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Old 09-11-2000, 12:51 PM   #4
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We have a crazy event coming up on the 23rd at Boeing.

In Wichita, Kansas though. But check out this course map-- we'll run three laps consecutively instead of the "usual" autocross format.
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Old 09-11-2000, 02:24 PM   #5
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Uhhhh... WOW!

Don't ANYBODY let the Philly Region guys see that... they're crazy (sadistic?) enough to spring something like that on us at Nazareth!!!

-Dan
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Old 09-11-2000, 02:42 PM   #6
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I had that happen at my first autocross 3 DNF's and two crappy times. I looked at it as a big time learning experience. Of course the course was really difficult and alot of people had problems with it. But since then I've done alot better and every time I run I go faster and get a better time. So once I get a better suspension underneath me..watch cuz here comes some scooby competition!!!

hehe

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Old 09-11-2000, 03:25 PM   #7
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Yeah, I guess I just got a little cocky pulling first place novice for my first to AutoX events and doing really well in PAX. I just wasn't "in the zone" on Sunday. Blah. Ohwell. Camden. Two weeks. Hopefully I'll have my BFG Comp T/A R1s mounted up and restored by then. They're hard as rocks right now.

I'll also be moving from ES to STR so I can go even lower in PAX. Teehee.

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Old 09-11-2000, 04:02 PM   #8
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Doesn't it give you a whole new respect for drivers that can click off lap after lap within small fractions of the the same lap times.
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Old 09-11-2000, 04:22 PM   #9
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I just wanted to thank everyone that helped me out on Sunday. It was my first time. All the scooby owners [I cant remember everyones name, but you now who you are.] helped me out so much. Was in stsn. My first run was 67sec with out hiting a cone. 2nd run 60sec no cones. 3rd was bad, got 62 and hit two cones. 4th run got 59 which put me in 1st. 5th was 60. But got beat out of 1st by .12 of a sec. Not to bad for 1st time with a stock 00 rs coupe. Only had custom intake and stock tires. Thanks again guys. Hope to see everyone at Camden.
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Old 09-11-2000, 04:34 PM   #10
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Sean,
That course was a bastard but you will get used to the crazy courses they put together. I too have had many imbaressing moments autocrossing but I usually don't post them to a nationwide club Lemme know if you have a hard time finding the Formula V tire treatment, I can track down someone who knows where to get it or just do a search on the PhAX archives.

Nathan,
Glad you had a good time, didn't I tell you you were gonna have a blast! You're doing a lot better than I was when I started (that goes for Sean too).

WRXPRESS,
You made it to the event but I'm still gonna hound you 'till you race Hope to see you at Camden too and if you turn up I'm going to make you run too. Camden is our annual Holbert memorial event and all the heats are open so you can run in any heat you want to.

Seeya all at Camden, it's gonna be a big fun fast course. Sorry I didn't get much of a chance to talk to you all at length, I was either working the course or trying to beat Kelley (who eventually beat me by 0.07 seconds).

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Old 09-11-2000, 05:56 PM   #11
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I keep missing all the damn meets....GRRRR...
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Old 09-11-2000, 06:53 PM   #12
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Thumbs up

It's not a meet, it's an autocross. It's just that a large amount of Subarus turn up. Check out:
http://www.autox4u.com/phillysolo.htm

Seeya at one soon.

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Old 09-11-2000, 08:23 PM   #13
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"e have a crazy event coming up on the 23rd at Boeing. In Wichita, Kansas though. But check out this course map-- we'll run three laps consecutively instead of the "usual" autocross format."


i think that could be considered a temporary street circuit. jeez.

any of you guys going to the MClub autox event at the Meadowlands on Saturday? It's a very well run and fast autox. they let you drive the course a few times before the start of your runs. much, much, much more helpful than just being able to walk it.
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Old 09-12-2000, 06:04 AM   #14
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Hey Sean-
IS the one in two weeks the big memorial race? They said in the drivers meeting that it was going to be at Nazareth, but maybe they got confused

Do you know for sure what the rest of the schedule is?

-Dan
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Old 09-12-2000, 08:06 AM   #15
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Gearhead - Wacky...from the flyer:

20000924 - Camden Event 11
20001001 - Camden Event 12
20001015 - Camden Event 13
20001022 - Camden Event 14

The Web site says the same thing. Hope to see you there!

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Old 09-12-2000, 11:23 AM   #16
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The perpetually directionally challenged one asks...

Who knows how to get to the Camden autocross site from north of Allentown? The autox4u site only gives directions from the NJ Pike.

-Dan, who can only find his way through cones
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Old 09-12-2000, 11:26 AM   #17
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Get directions from mapquest.com, then try to line them up with the directions on AutoX4u.com. I'm not real sure how to get there myself.

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Old 09-12-2000, 11:38 AM   #18
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I wish I did race. The company picnic I went to sucked real bad. I don't even like those people.
I will be at Camden and I will make an attempt to race. I hear that the Holbert one will be packed. I'll see you all there. I just have to get better tires and a real suspension.
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Old 09-12-2000, 11:43 AM   #19
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Take I-476 (N.E. extension) all the way South to I-76 East. Take this all the way to downtown Philly. Then take I-676 East (a left exit). Follow this for a couple miles till you see the signs for the Ben Franklin bridge. After you cross the Bridge make the first right you can possibly take. Now make your way back towards the waterfront. The lot is just under the bridge and slightly South. If you find the waterfront you can't miss the lot.

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Old 09-12-2000, 06:59 PM   #20
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Hey man I was sorta working the course until I had to bring my friend home... I hope the auto-x people aren't too mad that I left...
but anyways it looked like you where rushing the course... and that's about it... the first three times you did go around I was there work'n the course and it just looked like you were havin too much fun going around the loops... hehe well I hope ta see yea @ Camdem and most of all thanks for the tire presure advice.... also Thanks to Kelly for takin over my station... @ Camdem I promiss to stay after I play... thanks again to Sean and Kelly
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Old 09-12-2000, 08:03 PM   #21
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I would have cared more if I hadn't gotten go get something to drink and get out of the sun for a while first No worries.

The next event should be a lot of fun, guys. It is a special charity event and usually attracts some very good drivers from the surrounding area.

Be on the lookout for the Yellow ASP Lotus Elan of Rex Carle, who has won the event the last two years. I can still remember riding along with him as he drove my car at the Philly novice school. 'You mean my car can do THIS?? Holy crap!'
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Old 09-13-2000, 06:13 AM   #22
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Anyone know if they'll be doing the novice-class runs, walkthroughs, etc at the memorial event? I was hoping to get an instructor for one of my runs, but maybe they're doing things differently for the special event ?

-Dan
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Old 09-13-2000, 07:05 AM   #23
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There will still be a novice class and instructors available. Also a very good idea is to have the instructor drive your car for a run or two (it doesn't count against your runs), that's always a real eye opener.

The big difference about the way the Holbert Memorial works is that there are no preset heat assignments. You can run in any heat you want as long as you work one of the others. There is a number limit so you wouldn't want to wait till the last heat and run the risk of it being full.

Seeya there.

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