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Old 01-04-2004, 03:27 AM   #1
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Question 2004 headlights and HID

Need some opinion here, i have a 2004 wrx sedan and i want to put in HID's into the headlights, I was looking at the mcculloch since they are plug and play but i do not know really what else is out there, any personal recommendations? anything i should lean towards? any horror stories? how about the hid's that come with the sti? they worth getting and easy to install for my wrx? need some advice, also if i was going to replace with hid i need to probally take the headlights out, and if i am going to do that i was going to remove the orange plastic from the inside of the lights, anyone with personal experence on this, i know they show it on scoobymods.com but i was looking for personal feed back on how easy it is and what it really entails doing it, the pics look easy but everyhting looks easy until its 1/2 way apart
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Old 01-04-2004, 10:10 AM   #2
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I had the Catz 4300K H1 HID kit in my stock lights and I ended up changing to the STi HID headlights. (Catz recalled their HID kits when they became illegal, so I returned mine for a full refund.)

The Catz HIDs in the stock lights resulted in a less than optimal beam pattern - lots of scatter around the edges with a central round 'hot spot'. They put out tons of light, but people were flashing me all the time.

The STi HIDs have a much better beam pattern. They have a fairly sharp cutoff and illuminate the sides of the road better. I'm very happy with the STi HIDs, although they were a bit pricey. Installation is very easy. Do a search and you will find installation info.
-Jeff
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Old 01-04-2004, 06:20 PM   #3
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just wondering how much did you pay for the lights?
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Old 01-04-2004, 07:56 PM   #4
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I bought them from www.subaruwrxparts.com. They are $1200 for the pair.
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Old 01-06-2004, 01:21 AM   #5
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i hear that some cutting is involved in the mcculloch. that's what scared me. i was inches from buying it. then i read a couple of posts where people had to cut into the headlights.
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Old 01-06-2004, 11:07 AM   #6
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even for a 2004?
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:16 PM   #7
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i think only on the 2004s. i never heard of someone having to cut the my02 housing to fit HIDs. go with the real STi headlights, OEM HID > aftermarket hid. It's more money but expect to replace aftermarket bulbs every year, then hope the company is around in a year, or else you have to get a new kit. with OEM, a bulb dies, you can actually find them.

right now i'm researching using D2S bulbs in the morette H7 housings. I'll post with results.
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:18 PM   #8
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hmm...... not necessarily. wait. i'm tripping. philips and CATZ are OEM. so yeh. sounds like a plan.

still. it's not "horrible" to use parts from diff kits. THat's what Hella Kits are anyways...
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Old 01-06-2004, 01:14 PM   #9
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I installed Brightstar HIDs into my 2004 just last week, and I'm guessing they're about the same since it's an H1 formfactor. There is some cutting/drilling involved, so make sure you have the tools for it.

It's tough to get the spring clip to work right with the Xenon H1 bulbs, cause the wires and connecor are bigger. I broke one of them, and had to rig it a bit to get it to work, though it did work in the end. Basically, it's just not a 30min install like people say it is for the '02-'03s. I'd say like 3hrs, not sure cause breaking that piece added a bit of time to mine, and I took about 4hrs total.

Whiting the headlights is freaking easy. Follow the scoobymods guide, and don't be scared of the oven. I tried one with a hairdryer and one with the oven. 15min in the oven at 200 and it'll be so easy. Keep a hairdryer around though. I did them by myself, so it was slow going, and it was getting hard again by the time I got to the last side, so the hairdryer helped heat it up. Btw, the turn signal bulbs are 7440 (it doesn't list them in the owner manual), and Titan are the only bulbs that are siver but blink amber, Philips Silvervision and such aren't made in 7440. Just in case you wanted to have amber signals still. Btw, this car look SO much better with the headlights whited! It's so , you'll love it.
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Old 01-06-2004, 03:45 PM   #10
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i just bought sti hid headlights, I was wondering which ballast i should use for these
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Old 01-06-2004, 06:07 PM   #11
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3 hours.. jeeze.
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Old 01-26-2004, 12:56 AM   #12
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i just bought sti hid headlights, I was wondering which ballast i should use for these
Does any one have instructions they could post on this install or an answer to the question quoted above???
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Old 01-26-2004, 12:41 PM   #13
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When I bought the 2004 STi HID headlights, they came complete with ballasts mounted to the bottom. If they aren't with the lights I guess I'm not sure which ones to use. Maybe they can be purchased individually from Subaru.
If you need install info, do a search under my other posts. I posted a 2004 STi HID install write-up some time ago. I hope this helps.
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Old 01-26-2004, 01:48 PM   #14
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JAC04,

Have you tried the leveling motor installation with the in-cabin switch to go with it since you installed these (ala STI)?

I know in one of your posts you talk about the beam patter being good but imply its lacking in power to your old Catz, would you say you are satisfied with the power from the STI HID?

Do you find the brights work better than stock?

Thanks for your time on this and the walk-thru below!

-tim


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I installed the STi HID headlights into my 2004 WRX a few weeks back. The installation is very easy. Sorry, but I did not take pictures of the install. It is very straight-forward. I assume that you know how to remove & replace the headlights, so I won't go into that. I also assume that you know how to use a soldering gun/heat shrink tubing, etc.

The standard disclaimer applies - This is what I did on my car. You should verify everything before performing this modification. I am not responsible for any damage or problems associated with this modification. Consult the service manual wiring diagrams WI-135 and WI-138.

By the way, the 2004 STi headlights are different from the standard WRX lights. The reflectors and bulb shields are different. I had a Catz HID kit on my car before switching to the STi lights. The Catz HIDs put out more light, but the beam pattern was not very good. The STi lights have an excellent beam pattern.

Here's what I did:

1) Disable the DRLs by disconnecting the DRL module behind the glove box. This is important.

2)On each headlight, there is a short pigtail lead that goes from the ballast to a black 2-prong plug. Remove these black plugs. You will then have one red and one black wire coming out of each ballast. The red are your positive leads and the black are the negative (ground) leads.

3) Solder a 18"-24" length of black wire onto each of the the existing black wires an put a ring terminal on the end of each.

4) LEFT HEADLIGHT (driver's side): Cut off the existing grey plug that plugged into your low beams and remove a few inches of the black protective tubing. You will have a yellow/red wire and a red/blue wire. Cap off the yellow/red wire - you will not be using it. Ensure that the red/blue wire is positive and is energized when the headlight switch is in the on position. Solder the red/blue wire to the red wire coming out of the ballast. Use heat shrink to weatherproof the connection. Take the black wire with the ring terminal on the end and attach it to the ground point next to the battery.

4) RIGHT HEADLIGHT (passenger's side): Cut off the existing grey plug that plugged into your low beams and remove a few inches of the black protective tubing. You will have a yellow/red wire and a blue/white wire. Cap off the yellow/red wire - you will not be using it. Ensure that the blue/white wire is positive and is energized when the headlight switch is in the on position. Solder the blue/white wire to the red wire coming out of the ballast. Use heat shrink to weatherproof the connection. Take the black wire with the ring terminal on the end and attach it to the ground point next to the air box.

5) Plug in the high beams and clearance/signal lights on both sides.

6) Properly aim the lights.

7) Enjoy your HID lights.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Old 01-26-2004, 09:22 PM   #15
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Hey Tim. I have not installed the leveling switch or wiring. I'm not sure if I will in the future or not. The STi beam pattern is way better than the Catz HIDs installed in the stock WRX housings. The Catz did put out more light, but the Catz bulbs were unshielded so their light output in lumens is greater than the STi HIDs. Since the STi HIDs are reflector lights, they use the proper shielded type D2R bulbs. I am much happier with the STi HIDs than the Catz HIDs. The high beams appear to be the same for either lights. I changed the high beams to Silverstars since they were on sale with a mail-in rebate - slight improvement but nothing major.

I hope this helps,
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Old 01-27-2004, 01:28 AM   #16
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jac04,
Thanks a ton for your help on this. It has made my decision much easier.

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