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Old 02-06-2004, 09:38 PM   #1
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Default 93L FWD conversion notes

So I figure this is a good place to doccument some conversion notes....

Note: This is total back alley styles conversion. No airtools, no hoist, no shelter, no nothin.

1) Received car. 93L FWD auto. 193,000KMS. Seafoam green. Puke. Rebuilt title. Pretty straight but some evidence of bent up fornt frame rails. All body panels line up. Washed everything in the engine with a pressure washer. Looks like new

2) Put up on jackstands and removed the whole exhaust in one piece. (45 min). Then removed rear subframe. Pretty simple with no real challanges. Had to take apart the drum brakes to remove the e-brake cable. Had to take out the rear seats to drop the struts. I took the whole 2WD subframe assembly out as one piece. (2-3 hours)

3) Took out the auto tranny. What a pain in the a**. What is the best tool to use for knocking out the dowl pins on the innter CV joints? I used a 5mm (maybe) allen key but now it looks like a banana. There must me something better. *TIP* if you remove only the upper strut bolt and loosen the botton one then you can bend the hub down inorder to allow clearance to pull off the inner CVs from the tranny without removing the hub.

I don't know if it is just me but the input shaft on the auto seems VERY long. I was trying forever to get the tranny to get away from the torque converter. Anyway, in the end I used an engine hoist on the front of the tranny and a rope on the end of the tranny. I set up the hoist and pulled the rope form the back of the car and yanked out the tranny from the tourque converter. Kinda like fishing I was thinking to myself at the time. Problem with the engine hoist so close to the hood is that you risk denting the hood from the inside - which I did. Damn. It's only a small bump tho....Those auto trannies are heavy so watch out.

Some advice. Make sure your car is high up on jackstands in order to get the tranny out. I yanked mine right out the back using the fishing line but I still had to raise it twice to get the right clearance. (My jack sux so getting a good lift is a challange. Don't do this with out a high lift 3 tonne jack). Next time I'd get the car high enough and take it out the side.

Oh yeah, you also have to drain the tranny fluid or it comes out when you pull the tranny. Who'd have thought?? What a mess!! I think I got most of it in a bucket though.

*TIP* I cut a 3/8" drive extension so I could put it in my 18V drill and man-o-man does that drill have some torque!! It's like poor mans air-tools. I use it to remove all bolts up to and including 19mm! At the beginning somtimes I use a breaker bar abut othertimes I just pull the trigger and crank on the drill
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:57 PM   #2
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4) Removed the auto shifter. To do this I had to remove all the plastic consol. What a pain. Plus I got my seats pretty dirty cause I was pretty dirty.... anyway that's how it goes sometimes. While I was in there I also removed the air-bag control unit. Does anyone know it this screws anything up in the ECU? My new Nardi wheel doesn't have an airbag and since the cars is going to get thrashed in the woods I don't even want an airbag. So I removed the controller casue it was also in the way of removing the shifter. It all took awhile (maybe 1-1.5 hours) but eventually I got everything out. Now there is a big hole waiting for the 5 spd! What is the weird torx screwdriver called that removes all the airbag screws? I just used a robogrip. Not bad not bad.

That reminds me.... I tried to make a 10mm wrench for the brake lines by cutting a notch in the box end. I figured I'd get better grip on the super soft brake fittings this way. No dice really. They still wanted to round. However, I did find that my robogrip wrench was AMAZING and gripping these fittings. No strippage and no rounding of the fitting. Toooorrrrque and then crack. Just like that.

5) Steering wheel. How to you get the freakin thing off? I don't get it.

Next: Taking off the gas tank.........

Now: Waiting for my V3 RA 5 speed and rear 4wd conversion parts to all show up. how many people out there have a 1.8 and an STI RA box with 4.44 gears?? I didn't think so.
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Old 02-07-2004, 12:50 AM   #3
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wow sounds like fun I rememver when I did my AWD converison its a lot of work I didn't get all the bolts needed have you seen under an AWD subaru? theres little stuff you'll need that I didn't expect I'd needed. I didn't know what I was missing. some places wont give you a rear diff carrier its a huge T looking thing make sure you have that. I'm doing my ej20 in place of my 1.8 its a lot of work.
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